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Old 05-30-2014, 10:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Some of the responders in this thread strike me as quite complacent, with easy, pat answers, though they have no skin in the game themselves. For those that seriously want to find work, this is not a frivolous discussion!

I speak from some experience in that I moved to a city where I knew no one and had no connections at all. I'm 63 and fortunate enough to have a pension. I looked for a part-time job in order to meet people and earn spending money. Believe me, ageism is real, and finding a job, in general, is no picnic. Most jobs (at least where you have zero connections) are found through the Internet. In approximately 18 months I applied for about 300 jobs. In the huge majority of cases, I received absolutely no feedback at all. In jobs that I was quite interested in, I wrote very carefully tailored cover letters, in the hope of an interview. My 300 applications yielded between five and ten interviews.

I landed a total of three jobs in those 18 months, and one was, in fact, as a medical transport driver. I enjoyed that job greatly; I met interesting people and, as well, got to learn the highways of my new adopted city.

I won't go on to describe my other two jobs. As it is, my wife and I are in the process of joining the Peace Corps--that other popular activity of the newly retired. My point, however, is that getting a job in your senior years is not a simple proposition. I hate to read posts where people are snide or cavalier about it.
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Old 05-31-2014, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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Where is the goverment? Where are the Unions?
Big Brother can't create "soft" jobs out of thin air for spoiled seniors: we have a large, diverse economy that runs on the dictates of supply and demand. That's precisely why the chromic complainers are always running whining to politicians, unions and lawyers who have no real power.

For the first twenty years after World War II, North America was the only game in town; we rebuilt the Free world on our own terms. But we now face competition from nations which aren't hampered by our overbuilt bureaucracy and its clientele of overindulged children grown old.

There are plenty of jobs out there. Right now, at age 64, I'm holding one (temp) which pays $9.50 -- up from $8 a few years ago. We have health insurance, but it's not major medical -- it's what the employer, and the nation, can afford, and I trust it a lot more than the lie called "single payer'; anyone who thinks that will work ought to re-read the current stories about the VA's practices.

To stretch our incomes, a younger couple and I do income taxes seasonally, and fixed up an older house we rent to transient (but well-checked-out) construction workers. That gives us an advantage over people who live check-to-check, but implies learning a thing or two about how a free economy really works instead of what the politicians promise - and can't deliver.

Beyond that, I can't offer you much; we all face "the ride downhill" if we live long enough, and a healthy global economy isn't going to send as many displaced people here --- to supposedly do our least-wanted jobs at a price Gramps and Grandma would like to pay.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us! (Walt Kelly (cartoonist), 1913-1973)

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Old 05-31-2014, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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The government is going to concussion summit's for the NFL to discuss helmets and yet we have people who are 50 yrs old being targeted by employers. It's a disgrace.

Employers will start serving up bad reviews each time they have a review until they have enough to fire them so they can hire in the new grads and save money.

Where is the goverment? Where are the Unions?
In fact, a good portion of "the government" has been involved in a dedicated operation to quash unions for decades now. We currently have fewer unions in America than at any time since the 1920s. And, interestingly, the disparity in incomes between top management and the average worker is also almost identical to what it was at that same time in history. Unions were at their strongest in America between World War II to the sixties. That is also the time in our country when the middle class what at its peak strength. We had strong employment numbers, people made decent salaries, and workers had strong benefit packages. In those days many retirees had healthcare as part of their retirement packages. Imagine that!

In every presidential election cycle, the GOP gets more enthusiastic about expanding the number of what they charmingly call "right to work" states, which basically translates as states where workers have the "right to have no rights." In 2012, the GOP pressed in its platform for a National Right-to-Work Act. Please note that the following article explaining this idea is not from a partisan publication. It was in the Congress Blog published by The Hill, a newspaper with the largest circulation of any Capitol Hill publication, which has eleven blogs dedicated to specific political and policy issues. I am not the one calling the National Right to Work Act "a nightmare for American workers." The Hill did.

GOP platform a nightmare for American workers | TheHill
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Old 05-31-2014, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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The boomers pushed hard for this dog eat dog world during the 1980s and now are reaping what they sowed.
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What in the world are you talking about?
It's the "great delusion" -- popular with many seniors , and with the economically-ignorant in general, that all the wealth created back in the '80s was "stolen" from "duuh people" and hidden away in a vault somewhere.

That's not how real capitalism works -- as opposed to the "cronyism" now practiced by the clique in power in Washington.

Most of that wealth is still in the hands of the people who planned ahead and created it == whether it's the people behind Microsoft, Apple, Amazon and Google -- or the couple with a fast-food franchise or modest -- but busy -- retail shop. They can't be taxed ("punished" --in the eyes of the envious) unless they pay that money out as salaries or dividends, and they probably have plans to turn much of the rewards of that effort over to their children and successors -- intact.

Whine all you want, children-grown-old and powers-that wannabee. Even the politicians who lead you around by the nose recognize that the dance is over if the fruits of the private sector are "redistributed".
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Old 05-31-2014, 04:33 AM
 
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Indeed various driving jobs present opportunities for retirees who need some money or just need something to do. However, isn't there an aspect of that which doesn't get discussed, namely the pay? How much do these driving jobs pay? I can't imagine it could be more than $15 or $20 per hour. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right then that's a profoundly discouraging situation for anyone who lost a REAL job and actually needs or wants to make actual money. It has to be very depressing to be forced into working for $15 per hour.

On the other hand, if one just wants a bit more spending money, likes to drive, and needs something to do to get out of the house, all is well.
Have to disagree with you on this ER, except for about 8 people in my office, everyone make less than 20 dollars an hour working full time. And they are all required to have a college degree. 20 dollars an hours may not be much in LA, but it is a lot in most other places. Especially when you consider that 66 percent of all Americans make less than 41k dollars a year.

And I consider all of my coworkers to have REAL jobs.
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Indeed various driving jobs present opportunities for retirees who need some money or just need something to do. However, isn't there an aspect of that which doesn't get discussed, namely the pay? How much do these driving jobs pay? I can't imagine it could be more than $15 or $20 per hour. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right then that's a profoundly discouraging situation for anyone who lost a REAL job and actually needs or wants to make actual money. It has to be very depressing to be forced into working for $15 per hour.

On the other hand, if one just wants a bit more spending money, likes to drive, and needs something to do to get out of the house, all is well.
Did you expect this job to pay $70,000? Of course it's in that $15/hour range, maybe less in certain areas and certainly not a 40 hour week. The poster was describing a part time job to keep busy and make spending money, this was not a suggestion to replace a "real job".

I'm intrigued by this idea, I do want a job that keeps me moving as opposed to a Walmart greeter where the clock does not move and the feet hurt. How do you go about getting such a job? Do agencies place you?
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:43 AM
 
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How many of you are happy to be retired but would love a great part time job for a little extra income cut have not got anywhere getting one?
I retired at 60 and thought i'd get a job once retired not for the money but more to give me something to do, I put in job applications in all the local golf courses,big box stores,pharmacies,grocery stores, local municipalities,various janitor firms,renta car companies,security companies etc, to date not a single call back so i've given up on efforts to find employment and come to the conclusion companies really dont want to hire 60+ year olds no matter how menial the job.
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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I retired at 60 and thought i'd get a job once retired not for the money but more to give me something to do, I put in job applications in all the local golf courses,big box stores,pharmacies,grocery stores, local municipalities,various janitor firms,renta car companies,security companies etc, to date not a single call back so i've given up on efforts to find employment and come to the conclusion companies really dont want to hire 60+ year olds no matter how menial the job.
The best most honest reply so far!
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:47 AM
 
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Anyone who was serious about getting a job would deal with their grey hair before going on an interview. Its simple and common sense to make yourself look younger in any way you can.
I've had prematurely gray hair for several years, and frequently receive compliments from others who want to go natural but don't out of fear of looking their age.
If an employer doesn't hire me because I have gray hair (and I personally experienced this recently when I applied for a p/t job with one of the largest charities in the US), then I don't want to be in that environment. I find it sad that people in our society feel they have to go through the time (and expense) of coloring their hair, wearing a toupe, having botox injections, etc. to feel accepted.
Yes, age discrimination is out there, but keep a positive attitude, let everyone you know that you are looking for p/t work, and even volunteer. Sometimes volunteer positions open the door to paying jobs, and meanwhile you are building your network and have another skill to add to your resume. Good luck!
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:05 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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I'm intrigued by this idea, I do want a job that keeps me moving as opposed to a Walmart greeter where the clock does not move and the feet hurt. How do you go about getting such a job? Do agencies place you?
Upgrade to the appropriate license if you don't already have it. Get a copy of your insurance/driving record and a tb test. I can think right off of several places in my small town that I would apply to in person with those documents in hand: hospital, dialysis clinic, local (14 county) government agency that serves the elderly/indigent. Churches and senior citizen centers employ van drivers. I don't have any experience with agencies.


A group of my husband's retired friends made trips delivering cars for dealerships. I think this has been discussed here before. I don't know anything about the pay, but he would have really enjoyed doing that.
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