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Old 06-29-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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"Unlimited Local": $24.95 per month includes unlimited local calls within your "local region". Unfortunately this region is fairly small; for instance, Long Island is broken into 3 separate regions (Nassau County, Western Suffolk County, and Eastern Suffolk County). So if someone lives in Western Suffolk and has family in Nassau which is less than 20 miles away, those calls would not be in the "local region". No mention of what happens if you try to call outside your region, either about per minute charges or maybe it won't go through at all? No long distance.
This is exactly what I have. But I can phone within a 30-mi radius, which includes family and friends and doctor and hospital, etc. I cannot call outside this region (in order to do so, I'd have to dial "1" and then my own area code if calling in my western part of the state).
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Old 06-29-2014, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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If we have been around a while on City-Data, it is likely we've received some advice we didn't want to hear. The friendly and well-meaning kind is welcome, at least to me, but the personal attacks masquerading as advice are usually irritating. "Did you forget to take your meds?" is a crude example (clearly against the TOS) which I've never received but which I've seen given to a few others.

Here is one which I did receive: to devote more time and energy to making myself "a decent member of society". Yes, that was the attack-mode, troll type advice, as the poster who gave it to me knew nothing about any of the following:

-- Whether I am a helpful sort vis a vis my neighbors.
-- Whether I am considerate of my neighbors, such as not making noise at night.
-- Whether I engage in charitable giving, and to what extent.
-- Whether I am careful to avoid littering, and whether I pick up litter I come across.
-- Whether I seek out ways to help others directly, in addition to charitable giving.
-- Whether I take time out to call 911 if I ever see someone in distress, and stand by until EMS arrives.
--Whether I am courteous to waitresses, cashiers, clerks, and other service personnel.

I am not trying to brag; I sincerely believe that the vast majority (if not all!) of you posters in this Retirement Forum are "decent members of society" in all the ways I listed above. I am certainly not better than any of the rest of you in that regard.

But my point is that the troll advice did sting, as it was designed to.

O.K., rant over!
Was this a DM or a public message (if public - I missed it)?

If anyone sent me a message like this - I would tell them to kiss my a**. It's not that I'm not considerate of my neighbors - or litter - or am not courteous when it comes to people who serve me. It's just that my husband and I are now the oldest people in our neighborhood. No one does a friggin' thing to help us - and I sure won't go out of my way to help someone 30 years younger than I am.

Sh** - the 30 something mother of 2 who recently moved across the street from us is a total wimp. She has "weak ankles" (whatever that means). And her mother - who's younger than we are - and has knocked down our mailbox when backing out of the driveway - arrives there every morning at about 7 am and stays after 5 to help out the "ankle impaired daughter". FWIW - when our mailbox was knocked down by the incompetent mother driver - she didn't tell us - or pay for it. When we confronted her with it - she just said she was glad our mailbox didn't scratch her BMW. Scr** you bit**. Robyn
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Old 06-29-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Was this a DM or a public message (if public - I missed it)?

If anyone sent me a message like this - I would tell them to kiss my a**. It's not that I'm not considerate of my neighbors - or litter - or am not courteous when it comes to people who serve me. It's just that my husband and I are now the oldest people in our neighborhood. No one does a friggin' thing to help us - and I sure won't go out of my way to help someone 30 years younger than I am.

Sh** - the 30 something mother of 2 who recently moved across the street from us is a total wimp. She has "weak ankles" (whatever that means). And her mother - who's younger than we are - and has knocked down our mailbox when backing out of the driveway - arrives there every morning at about 7 am and stays after 5 to help out the "ankle impaired daughter". FWIW - when our mailbox was knocked down by the incompetent mother driver - she didn't tell us - or pay for it. When we confronted her with it - she just said she was glad our mailbox didn't scratch her BMW. Scr** you bit**. Robyn
I enjoyed your post. The message I received was on the open forum, but it was not in the Retirement Forum, and it was some time ago, maybe six months or more. So no, I don't expect that you would have seen it.
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Old 06-29-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Just did a quick check of Verizon (which is the only landline company here) landline options:

"Sensible Minute": $2.99 per month, plus 11 cents per minute for all direct-dialed local calls. No long distance. I'm not sure how restricted the "local" is; maybe just within your very immediate area (as in, same first 3 digits of phone number)?

"Unlimited Local": $24.95 per month includes unlimited local calls within your "local region". Unfortunately this region is fairly small; for instance, Long Island is broken into 3 separate regions (Nassau County, Western Suffolk County, and Eastern Suffolk County). So if someone lives in Western Suffolk and has family in Nassau which is less than 20 miles away, those calls would not be in the "local region". No mention of what happens if you try to call outside your region, either about per minute charges or maybe it won't go through at all? No long distance.

"Message Rate Service": $15.80 per month for dial-tone service, plus 9 cents per minute for calls within your own HOme Region only. No mention of what happens if you try to call outside of it. No long distance.

Plus all the taxes and fees added to those amounts, naturally! Which I'm sure would add another $3-$4 to the service charge.

What I can't figure out is why anyone would prefer the Message Rate service over the Sensible Minute service... assuming they don't intend to ever use it for anything other than dialing 911.
Are you sure the message rate service was per minute versus a flat rate per call?
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:09 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Was this a DM or a public message (if public - I missed it)?

If anyone sent me a message like this - I would tell them to kiss my a**. It's not that I'm not considerate of my neighbors - or litter - or am not courteous when it comes to people who serve me. It's just that my husband and I are now the oldest people in our neighborhood. No one does a friggin' thing to help us - and I sure won't go out of my way to help someone 30 years younger than I am.

Sh** - the 30 something mother of 2 who recently moved across the street from us is a total wimp. She has "weak ankles" (whatever that means). And her mother - who's younger than we are - and has knocked down our mailbox when backing out of the driveway - arrives there every morning at about 7 am and stays after 5 to help out the "ankle impaired daughter". FWIW - when our mailbox was knocked down by the incompetent mother driver - she didn't tell us - or pay for it. When we confronted her with it - she just said she was glad our mailbox didn't scratch her BMW. Scr** you bit**. Robyn
My best guess is that Mommy is likely paying for the house weak-ankled (Huh?) 30 something is living in. You can pick your state, your town and your neighborhood but you can't pick your neighbors or their crazy relatives.
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Glenbogle
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Are you sure the message rate service was per minute versus a flat rate per call?
Duuuh... you are right. I just double-checked and it is 9 cents per call. Not 9 cents per minute. So sorry!

Here's the thing though: For someone who has a monitored security system, the choice of connection method is important. Using a VOIP (phone service from an internet company) is strongly discouraged because not only won't it work when there's a power outage, but it also won't work during internet outages (which can happen independently of power outages) and if the internet connection is slow, the phone connection will likewise have problems because it's all going through one system. For reliability with a security system, you need to either choose a system that has its own cellular/radio connection (no landline needed) or have a landline plan that allows a connection to wherever the monitoring station is located. The cheapest plans (less than $10/mo) are highly unlikely to allow calls to numbers that far away.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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My best guess is that Mommy is likely paying for the house weak-ankled (Huh?) 30 something is living in. You can pick your state, your town and your neighborhood but you can't pick your neighbors or their crazy relatives.
Excellent guess on your part - except it's Mommy and Daddy - who both moved here from south Florida to be near daughter and grandkids and DH (who IMO is a really nice guy - but a very hard-working very young doctor). Come to think of it - the people on one side of us - who don't maintain their house well at all IMO - also had Mommy pay for the house.

And you are so right about neighbors. We had great luck when we first moved here. But now? It's impossible for me even to count the ways in which our neighbors are - at least on the surface - dysfunctional. Like one husband and wife neighbor (who actually paid for their house themselves) - well we never see them at all. And their 30ish year old son moved in with them during the financial crisis - and we hardly ever see him either. He sure doesn't help his folks at all best I can tell. OTOH - I will have to say one thing about our neighbors. They are all quiet. Super quiet. If I didn't see them once in a while - I would suspect they're all dead.

FWIW - the thing that really PO'd me about the new neighbors across the street was I bake cookies at Christmas. This is my favorite recipe :

Paula's Loaded Oatmeal Cookies Recipe : Paula Deen : Food Network

And I brought a few over when I saw the young girl playing across the street. Grandma looked at them like they were rat turds - and confiscated them. Didn't even thank me. Didn't even try to be pleasant. Robyn

P.S. Guess a complicating factor with the grandparents across the street is grandpa is an avid golfer (probably plays many times a week) and grandma doesn't play golf. So she has a ton of time to kill on her own. My husband and I are kind of joined at the hip in terms of what we do (not 100% - but a lot). I don't think our retirement would have been much fun for me if my husband went off for like 4 whole days a week to play golf - and left me to my own devices. As it stands now - we both play golf together - albeit not very well. And - before that - I played tennis 2 mornings a week while my husband went to the gym or went swimming 2 days a week.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Excellent guess on your part - except it's Mommy and Daddy - who both moved here from south Florida to be near daughter and grandkids and DH (who IMO is a really nice guy - but a very hard-working very young doctor). Come to think of it - the people on one side of us - who don't maintain their house well at all IMO - also had Mommy pay for the house.

And you are so right about neighbors. We had great luck when we first moved here. But now? It's impossible for me even to count the ways in which our neighbors are - at least on the surface - dysfunctional. Like one husband and wife neighbor (who actually paid for their house themselves) - well we never see them at all. And their 30ish year old son moved in with them during the financial crisis - and we hardly ever see him either. He sure doesn't help his folks at all best I can tell. OTOH - I will have to say one thing about our neighbors. They are all quiet. Super quiet. If I didn't see them once in a while - I would suspect they're all dead.

FWIW - the thing that really PO'd me about the new neighbors across the street was I bake cookies at Christmas. This is my favorite recipe :

Paula's Loaded Oatmeal Cookies Recipe : Paula Deen : Food Network

And I brought a few over when I saw the young girl playing across the street. Grandma looked at them like they were rat turds - and confiscated them. Didn't even thank me. Didn't even try to be pleasant. Robyn

P.S. Guess a complicating factor with the grandparents across the street is grandpa is an avid golfer (probably plays many times a week) and grandma doesn't play golf. So she has a ton of time to kill on her own. My husband and I are kind of joined at the hip in terms of what we do (not 100% - but a lot). I don't think our retirement would have been much fun for me if my husband went off for like 4 whole days a week to play golf - and left me to my own devices. As it stands now - we both play golf together - albeit not very well. And - before that - I played tennis 2 mornings a week while my husband went to the gym or went swimming 2 days a week.
Loaded cookies is right, if not an understatement. They sound delicious.

Interesting timing. Just yesterday my wife and I were talking about how our community has almost always been made up of retirees with some younger-owned weekend and vacation homes. I guess it's inevitable that as more and more of us geezers assume room temperature, more and more younger families will replace us. While still very quiet, the decibel level is slowly but surely increasing as the number of children increases. Progress or just the "hazard" of living on the shore of a very large lake?

Like you and your husband, most of what we do we do together. That's the way we like it.
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Duuuh... you are right. I just double-checked and it is 9 cents per call. Not 9 cents per minute. So sorry!

Here's the thing though: For someone who has a monitored security system, the choice of connection method is important. Using a VOIP (phone service from an internet company) is strongly discouraged because not only won't it work when there's a power outage, but it also won't work during internet outages (which can happen independently of power outages) and if the internet connection is slow, the phone connection will likewise have problems because it's all going through one system. For reliability with a security system, you need to either choose a system that has its own cellular/radio connection (no landline needed) or have a landline plan that allows a connection to wherever the monitoring station is located. The cheapest plans (less than $10/mo) are highly unlikely to allow calls to numbers that far away.
All this is exactly why we went with the wireless connection for my mom's Life Alert system. She has Majic Jack for her phone and it's 'iffy' a lot of the time. It costs $10 mo. more for the wireless but at least it'll work well. They installed it yesterday and I think we're going to be happy with it. As a side note, we were told that with this system...and the super duper smoke alarm they also supply...Mom's house insurance rates could go down some. When they were testing it we found out just how LOUD the thing is! You can hear it all over the house and it's sensitive enough to pick up 'yells' from the bedroom. It's installed in the living room.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Glenbogle
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AZDesertBrat, most home insurers will give a discount of 10% for a monitored security system that includes fire protection.
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