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Old 07-07-2014, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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... Wyoming is what America used to be. People are individualistic and self-reliant, primarily conservative and libertarian Republicans. State and local governent are generally less intrusive than most places. That's why so many of us here are political refugees.
I'm pretty old and have lived a lot of places and I don't ever remember "what America used to be" as libertarian. I remember the America of old as a place where people felt beholden to take care of each other and create solutions to problems that would work for the majority. That certainly isn't happening nearly as much these days. Although I would agree that Wyoming seem to embody the "stop progress" attitude, so I'm glad you've found your happy place.
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Old 07-07-2014, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Paradise is expensive. Having said that, there are old industrial towns in western MA and S. NH that have been in deep real-estate and general business depressions for years. The climate fits and there have to be some smaller towns that have a good quality of life and where real-estate prices are still reasonable. Look around outside North Adams, MA, for example.
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Old 07-07-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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Wyoming is what America used to be. People are individualistic and self-reliant, primarily conservative and libertarian Republicans. State and local governent are generally less intrusive than most places. That's why so many of us here are political refugees.
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I'm pretty old and have lived a lot of places and I don't ever remember "what America used to be" as libertarian. I remember the America of old as a place where people felt beholden to take care of each other and create solutions to problems that would work for the majority. That certainly isn't happening nearly as much these days. Although I would agree that Wyoming seem to embody the "stop progress" attitude, so I'm glad you've found your happy place.
That's how I remember how America used to be: Peace Corps. Medicare. Labor laws. Civil Rights... Things were far from perfect but we were working together to solve problems.

Perhaps Happy in Wyoming is referring to how things used to be back during the time of the robber barons with children working in factories and old people worried about being dumped off at the poor farm.

Oh, the good old days.

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Old 07-07-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Loudon, TN
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You might check out Clear Lake, CA. The summer weather is fairly mild and they do have snow for about a month in the winters. However, the winters are pretty short. It might be far enough south to get out of the endless winter drizzle and rain in Oregon and Washington.
I don't know if you have ever lived near Clearlake CA, but I would not call summer there mild. Today's high temp = 103. But it's a DRY heat. LOL It also does not snow there. I lived about an hour away from there for MANY years.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:20 AM
 
Location: WA
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We looked for no bad winters, no bad summers, moderate taxes, access to a major airport, and a low congestion pretty place. Settled outside of Vancouver, Washington.

I always advise that a list of priorities is the first thing to develop before shopping areas.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Loudon, TN
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For checking out the climate of the area, I suggest you check the stats for the areas you are considering right here on C-D. It also gives you an incredible amount of info on other characteristics.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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Thanks for all the suggestions--please keep them coming!

If I could, I would spend the fall and winter in a place like Washington, DC or Boston and the spring and summer in Monterey, CA (an area I love), but I don't a few extra million lying around. I love cold weather, but ideally that means 30's and 40's (I wish it were those temperatures year round), not days of below zero! I'm not fond of big cities, but I think a small town would be too small and I would like a college or university town. I was thinking of Reno or Vancouver because of the positive tax situation in those states.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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[quote=cdelena;35543595]We looked for no bad winters, no bad summers, moderate taxes, access to a major airport, and a low congestion pretty place. Settled outside of Vancouver, Washington.

I always advise that a list of priorities is the first thing to develop before shopping areas.[/quot


I'm very curious about the Vancouver rain situation. I love cloudy days and lack of sun doesn't bother me at all, but days of drenching rain are not appealing. I'm given to understand that the rain in Vancouver is more like a mist or drizzle--is this true? If so, are there attendant problems (cars rusting quickly, wood rotting, insects)? I'm also an odd sort, feeling very sorry for earthworms that come out after rains and die on drying sidewalks--are there worms on sidewalks everywhere?
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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The central Oregon coast, from Florence to Newport has nearly new condos in your price range. It can rain (hard at times) but for many of us the green of spring and summer makes it worth it. Some of the best weather is in the spring and fall. Typical summer day is 65 to 70 degrees, sunny inland and fog on the beach. Worth a look.
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You ever considered Nova Scotia, Canada? Healthy and clean environment there. I mean, you CAN choose somewhere outside the states.Northern France and Ireland don't sound too bad, either.
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