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Old 09-01-2014, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque NM
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My daughter flies regularly to Australia. She uses a kind of compression stocking made to prevent this

The only thing I can think of worse than 15 hours on an airplane is 15 hours on an airplane compressed
You can also do exercises while sitting to pump blood to lower body. Heel lifts, toe lifts, stepping in place, etc. And take an aspirin before the flight.
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Old 09-01-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Just a little story!

About 15 years ago, H and I were vacationing on Moorea, Tahiti. The hotel had no phones or TV's so the guests tended to gather on the patio and talk or play cards/games in the evenings. One night we spied a 'new' couple we hadn't seen before so we went over to talk and introduce ourselves.

They were from the UK and both in their 80's. They moved slow but didn't seem to be disabled. Just elderly. They explained this was their last trip and they were going around the world. We continued our conversation over a glass of wine while they told us about all their adventures. They had already been on the journey for over 6 months and didn't anticipate getting home for at least 4 more. They went where they wanted to go and stayed as long as they liked. They explored as they pleased. We spent a wonderful evening with them and wished them well. When they returned to the UK they were hanging up their walking shoes and going to assisted living. They had already sold their home and most of their possessions. Active and engaged, they were having a ball and enjoying every minute.

Back in our room, H and I discussed their trip and wanted to be just like them when we hit 80something. We hoped we would still be curious and able to go and do. We talked about where we would go and what we wanted to see on our 'bucket trip'. What a perfect fantasy. Sitting on our balcony slicing pineapple and planning our last trip. We vowed to never become timid and afraid.

Over the years I have thought about this couple many times. They were an inspiration to me. If they can do it, so can I! And so can you. Everyone deserves a great trip now and then.
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Old 09-01-2014, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Just a little story!

About 15 years ago, H and I were vacationing on Moorea, Tahiti. The hotel had no phones or TV's so the guests tended to gather on the patio and talk or play cards/games in the evenings. One night we spied a 'new' couple we hadn't seen before so we went over to talk and introduce ourselves.

They were from the UK and both in their 80's. They moved slow but didn't seem to be disabled. Just elderly. They explained this was their last trip and they were going around the world. We continued our conversation over a glass of wine while they told us about all their adventures. They had already been on the journey for over 6 months and didn't anticipate getting home for at least 4 more. They went where they wanted to go and stayed as long as they liked. They explored as they pleased. We spent a wonderful evening with them and wished them well. When they returned to the UK they were hanging up their walking shoes and going to assisted living. They had already sold their home and most of their possessions. Active and engaged, they were having a ball and enjoying every minute.

Back in our room, H and I discussed their trip and wanted to be just like them when we hit 80something. We hoped we would still be curious and able to go and do. We talked about where we would go and what we wanted to see on our 'bucket trip'. What a perfect fantasy. Sitting on our balcony slicing pineapple and planning our last trip. We vowed to never become timid and afraid.

Over the years I have thought about this couple many times. They were an inspiration to me. If they can do it, so can I! And so can you. Everyone deserves great trip now and then.
What a great post, Yellowsnow! I think many people do defeat themselves by becoming "timid and afraid". But in fairness to those with serious medical problems, some folks really cannot travel much anymore no matter how much they would like to.
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Old 09-01-2014, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default Thoughts on flying

A number of posters to this thread have stated that their flying days are over. My airline-day-from-hell about 10 days ago made me more sympathetic to that point of view. In fact, I felt the same way myself on that day. But the following day I had a good family reunion, was glad I went, and got over being so angry and frustrated. I know I will fly again.

The truth is that the rather extreme delay and the multiple problems I faced that day are not the norm, but the exception.

Travel by automobile is not guaranteed to be trouble-free either. One could have an accident or a mechanical break-down. A few days after I drove through southern Arizona eastbound on I-10 on July 19, there was a massive dust storm in the area, with near zero visibility, etc. I'm glad I missed it. It could have clogged up the air filter; perhaps I will carry a spare from now on.

So regardless of the mode of travel, there is the (usually remote) chance of encountering severe problems. Modern ship travel is considered quite safe, but there was an Italian cruise ship that capsized a while back. Remember that?

We can become too fearful and allow our world to shrink. That is sad when it happens. And we can have health problems so severe that there is little choice. That, too, is sad, but not within our control.
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Old 09-01-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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What a great post, Yellowsnow! I think many people do defeat themselves by becoming "timid and afraid". But in fairness to those with serious medical problems, some folks really cannot travel much anymore no matter how much they would like to.
Thank you! When it comes to things like travel and the unknown I will always have 2 angels on my shoulder. One is this elderly woman and the other is my Mom, who invented timid and afraid. Mom was afraid of living, period. Even the most mundane adventure was full of danger and bound to be a disaster. She was terminally afraid of everything and had huge regrets. She was Chicken Little and the sky was always falling.

So consequently I am afraid of very little. I won't allow it! My motto has always been I would prefer to die in a parachuting accident than in a nursing home!

Yes I agree there are some physical disabilities that preclude traveling. And I feel bad for people who can't go and do as they please. But those among us who sit and worry about what could happen... Just do it! After all, we could get waxed driving to the doctor's office or checking the mail.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:35 PM
 
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Thank you! When it comes to things like travel and the unknown I will always have 2 angels on my shoulder. One is this elderly woman and the other is my Mom, who invented timid and afraid. Mom was afraid of living, period. Even the most mundane adventure was full of danger and bound to be a disaster. She was terminally afraid of everything and had huge regrets. She was Chicken Little and the sky was always falling.

So consequently I am afraid of very little. I won't allow it! My motto has always been I would prefer to die in a parachuting accident than in a nursing home!

Yes I agree there are some physical disabilities that preclude traveling. And I feel bad for people who can't go and do as they please. But those among us who sit and worry about what could happen... Just do it! After all, we could get waxed driving to the doctor's office or checking the mail.
I can't believe it! You described my mother! Is that why I rode bicycles extensively (Seattle to Los Angeles one time with ex-wife), rode motorcycles extensively, and flew private airplanes? The one thing I didn't want to be in life was like my mother.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:44 PM
 
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My daughter flies regularly to Australia. She uses a kind of compression stocking made to prevent this

The only thing I can think of worse than 15 hours on an airplane is 15 hours on an airplane compressed

Compression hose can be a great thing if you are flying a lot. Good compression hose (i.e. Jobs) are NOT inexpensive (mine cost $50-70 a pair). Lower compression cost about half that.

One thing that gets overlooked IMO is that compression hose MUST be fitted by someone who knows what they are doing. If you get the wrong size, you may be doing more harm than good.
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Old 09-02-2014, 02:56 AM
 
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As for the recent air travel, my eastbound flight was a day from hell - severely delayed departure requiring re-routing and several almost missed connections. It was so bad that when I arrived in Houston four hours late, I was grateful that it was ONLY four hours late. I hadn't eaten all day except those tiny bags of peanuts because there was no time at the plane-change points - I had to run to the new gate where they were already boarding! It was stressful, frustrating, and I was angry, but being 70 was no impediment; I would have been stressed, frustrated, and angry at any age.
The one concession I've made to my age (60) is that I'm never in that much of a hurry. Miss a flight? I'll wait for the next one. It's not until tomorrow? I'll get a room.

I'm concerned that someday I'll have more limitations but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:10 AM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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Compression hose can be a great thing if you are flying a lot. Good compression hose (i.e. Jobs) are NOT inexpensive (mine cost $50-70 a pair). Lower compression cost about half that.

One thing that gets overlooked IMO is that compression hose MUST be fitted by someone who knows what they are doing. If you get the wrong size, you may be doing more harm than good.
Where do you get these compression hose? From a doctor? I'll have to learn more about how to avoid deep vein thrombosis, the idea of it horrifies me and I don't want that worry to interfere with my love of travel. Thank you to all who provided suggestions for how to deal with this potential problem.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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The one concession I've made to my age (60) is that I'm never in that much of a hurry. Miss a flight? I'll wait for the next one. It's not until tomorrow? I'll get a room.

I'm concerned that someday I'll have more limitations but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
I would have had the same attitude except that I was traveling for a wake (which I missed) and the funeral the following day (which I attended). I had already reneged on one commitment in order to travel, and leaving a day earlier (just as "insurance" against delays) would have required reneging on another commitment. The chances of such severe delays as I encountered (in the absence of weather problems) were small, especially for a 9:00 A.M. departure. (Afternoon and evening flights are more likely to be delayed because any delays begin to add up (accumulate) and percolate through the system.)

Flying purely for pleasure can be planned well in advance, but people's deaths are not predictable, even when it is known that the end seems to be near. Even the choice of flights is limited when one is booking four or five days in advance because some flights do sell out. I could have been an hour and a half late and made the wake, but the four hour delay caused me to miss it.
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