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Reading comprehension. Those children I worked directly with HAD the flu. It wasn't because everyone around me had FLU SHOTS. Um, they DIDN'T.
Not everyone who is exposed to influenza will catch it. It's nice that you have not gotten it so far; that does not mean you never will. Anywhere from 2% to 20% of the population gets it each year. Unfortunately, though you are perfectly happy to get sick, those you pass it on to are probably not going to be.
Not everyone who is exposed to influenza will catch it. It's nice that you have not gotten it so far; that does not mean you never will. Anywhere from 2% to 20% of the population gets it each year. Unfortunately, though you are perfectly happy to get sick, those you pass it on to are probably not going to be.
Look at your own statistics apart from the negative. If 2 to 20% of the populations gets the flu, that means 98% to 80% DON'T get the flu. That is ONLY because all those people are vaccinated?lol When according to MORE statistics, only about 50% of the populations gets flu shots? Does not compute. You don't want to accentuate the POSITIVE statistics.
It is just like saying that during the 1918 Flu Pandemic 10% to 20% of the population died. That also means means that 80% to 90% DID survive. How can any of us alive today possibly be so if our direct ancestors died before giving birth or before they reached maturity and gave birth themselves? Is THAT so difficult to comprehend? Your yourself are trying to negate your own family history. My Grandma died from the flu before she gave birth to my Mom? My Mom died from the flu before she gave birth to me?
You are slanting statistics to suit what you want to achieve: Herd immunity, and selling vaccinations and "preventive care" making a whole lot of money for pharms, etc.
Look at your own statistics apart from the negative. If 2 to 20% of the populations gets the flu, that means 98% to 80% DON'T get the flu. That is ONLY because all those people are vaccinated?lol When according to MORE statistics, only about 50% of the populations gets flu shots? Does not compute. You don't want to accentuate the POSITIVE statistics.
It is just like saying that during the 1918 Flu Pandemic 10% to 20% of the population died. That also means means that 80% to 90% DID survive. How can any of us alive today possibly be so if our direct ancestors died before giving birth or before they reached maturity and gave birth themselves? Is THAT so difficult to comprehend? Your yourself are trying to negate your own family history. My Grandma died from the flu before she gave birth to my Mom? My Mom died from the flu before she gave birth to me?
You are slanting statistics to suit what you want to achieve: Herd immunity, and selling vaccinations and "preventive care" making a whole lot of money for pharms, etc.
Still, anywhere from 2% to 20% of Americans get the flu each year. The vaccine cuts the risk in half. There are those of us who do not want to be part of the 1% to 20%, most of whom are just miserable for a week or two but some of whom die.
I understand you do not care whether you get the flu and maybe die from it. That's up to you. Personally, I think it's silly not to take a safe vaccine that can significantly reduce the risk of my getting sick.
And who's "slanting" statistics? LOL!
Your genealogical reference does exactly what you are accusing me of doing. Obviously our ancestors survived to reproduce. Many of their siblings did not --- having died from all kinds of infectious diseases that we can prevent with vaccines now.
Still, anywhere from 2% to 20% of Americans get the flu each year. The vaccine cuts the risk in half. There are those of us who do not want to be part of the 1% to 20%, most of whom are just miserable for a week or two but some of whom die.
I understand you do not care whether you get the flu and maybe die from it. That's up to you. Personally, I think it's silly not to take a safe vaccine that can significantly reduce the risk of my getting sick.
And who's "slanting" statistics? LOL!
Your genealogical reference does exactly what you are accusing me of doing. Obviously our ancestors survived to reproduce. Many of their siblings did not --- having died from all kinds of infectious diseases that we can prevent with vaccines now.
Excuse me but yours did also or you would not be here today to be posting this.
Yes, I am against vaccinations, AND all of this other "preventative" medicine; free or otherwise.
Ok, glad to hear you say it here. I just hope anyone reading your posts against the flu shot will remember that you are against all vaccination and preventative medicine.
Since most people support vaccination, we need to put your opinions in their proper context.
Excuse me but yours did also or you would not be here today to be posting this.
Obviously.
That's not the point. The people in my family tree (related to me though not my ancestors) who died as children from measles, diphtheria, typhoid, whooping cough, and a host of other infectious diseases did not leave any descendants.
Those are the ones you conveniently ignore. Your logic is way off.
Ok, glad to hear you say it here. I just hope anyone reading your posts against the flu shot will remember that you are against all vaccination and preventative medicine.
Since most people support vaccination, we need to put your opinions in their proper context.
I understand your legitimate point of view.
In answer to the OP’s question, however (“it is worth it?”), in the end it does not matter what other people think and do. What matters is what you think and do, a matter of personal responsibilty and freedom of choice, based on personal research (or not) and experience.
Those who choose to get the vaccine will not be affected by those who choose not to, because their vaccine will protect them from getting the flu. Those who choose not to get the vaccine may indeed contract the flu and will suffer the consequences.
Is it worth it? It certainly would appear to be so for those who do get the shot and do not get the flu. It may not be worth it to those who do get the shot and then suffer any degree of potential harm. It may not be worth it to those who do get the shot get the flu anyway, enough cases documented in medical journals.
So “Is it worth it?” is an open-ended question that cannot really provide a helpful answer to anyone pondering getting the vaccine.
There's no right or wrong, I'm glad it's a choice and not mandated. Those who shun flu vaccines and haven't had the flu in years do owe some gratitude to those of us who do get the shots.
Those who get the flu shot do not prevent the flu from spreading. They possibly prevent themselves from getting the flu.
Those who get the flu shot do not prevent the flu from spreading. They possibly prevent themselves from getting the flu.
Of course they do not prevent the flu from spreading in an absolute sense, but they do in a relative sense. The fewer people running around with the flu means the less the flu will spread.
In rare cases such as smallpox, widespread and largely mandatory vaccinations resulted in the eradication of the disease. I remember having to have a yellow card proving I had had a smallpox vaccination the first time I went to Europe in 1963.
Those who get the flu shot do not prevent the flu from spreading. They possibly prevent themselves from getting the flu.
You are mistaken. When one takes a vaccine, the vaccine not only prevents one from catching a disease, it prevents one from being able to spread that disease as well. This concept is known as "herd immunity".
The reason that you don't see epidemics of diptheria, red measles, polio is because vast majority of people have been immunized against these diseases. The disease or virus is unable to find a "host" among vaccinated people and this vastly reduces its potential to spread.
This is why immunization is a public health issue and not simply a personal preference. Its why states require school children to be immunized before attending public school. States have a right under their police powers to regulate the health, welfare, and safety of their citizens and to mandate compulsory vaccination laws for this very reason.
This is not a complicated concept. Everyone should understand it.
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Many of their siblings did not --- having died from all kinds of infectious diseases that we can prevent with vaccines now.
