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Old 01-09-2015, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Florida -
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Anyone who actually believes the news media or 'headlines' pertaining to SS, SSDI or anything else ... will find themselves in a constant state of agitation and flux. 'News' is no longer news, but, rather, a biased editorial of what the media thinks people should think about media perceptions of 'what might happen.'

In that scenario, 'the sky must fall' at least three times per month to keep media advertising sales and newspaper sales from plummeting. OK, call me a skeptic or cynic when it comes to the media, ... but, when was the last time you got seriously credible information from a 'news' editorial??
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Old 01-09-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Disabled people need more income than retired people. What if their wheelchair needs a new axle or something? What if their front door is too narrow and they have to go out the back door for their wheelchair to fit through it, but their back door ramp gets cracked by tree roots? A retired person can use his cane and go out the front door, at low cost.
Problem is, a lot of "disabled" people are getting SSDI because they were laid off during this recession and were unable to find new jobs...not a new story. They don't need wheelchairs, ramps, band-aids or anything else -- just money, once their unemplotment benefits run out.
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Old 01-09-2015, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Anyone who actually believes the news media or 'headlines' pertaining to SS, SSDI or anything else ... will find themselves in a constant state of agitation and flux. 'News' is no longer news, but, rather, a biased editorial of what the media thinks people should think about media perceptions of 'what might happen.'

In that scenario, 'the sky must fall' at least three times per month to keep media advertising sales and newspaper sales from plummeting. OK, call me a skeptic or cynic when it comes to the media, ... but, when was the last time you got seriously credible information from a 'news' editorial??
Try the SS Trustee report:


Trustees Report Summary
Social Security’s Disability Insurance (DI) program satisfies neither the Trustees’ long-range test of close actuarial balance nor their short-range test of financial adequacy and faces the most immediate financing shortfall of any of the separate trust funds. DI Trust Fund reserves expressed as a percent of annual cost (the trust fund ratio) declined to 62 percent at the beginning of 2014, and the Trustees project trust fund depletion late in 2016, the same year projected in the last Trustees Report.
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Old 01-09-2015, 03:07 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Has anyone been keeping an eye on what the do-nothing-but-take-away-your-Social Security Congress is putting up for passage now?
That's nonsense Democrats put out to scare the Be-Jesus out of everyone. The purpose of this sort of nonsense is to get people to put Democrats back in office.

They do the same thing with abortion rights, etc.

They're good at it. It works.

Jonathan Gruber was right about a couple of things.

But, no, there is no such pending legislation.
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Old 01-09-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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Actually, as an elder who was laid off & unable to find work, at least here in Minnesota, I received a whopping $200 a month from welfare, oh & $200 in food stamps. In order for me to receive Ssdi after a car accident which destroyed my back took 2 years of fighting. So I'm not sure how these other people you state receive it did that. My Dr & disability file was huge. It wasn't until I hired a lawyer & I met with the judge who clearly saw I could barely walk, combined with over 40 years of work, was I finally awarded SSDI.

Oh, and you can't see my bandaid. It's one of those invisible ones I cover with clothes, although the cane kind of gives it away. Walk in others shoes before you make one fits all statements please.

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Old 01-09-2015, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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SSI is a welfare program for the aged and disabled. It has nothing to do with Social Security.

Social Security has two trust funds... the Disability Trust Fund and the Retirement/Survivors Trust Fund. Workers pay into both trust funds through payroll taxes AND Congress has historically changed the percentage of payroll tax paid into each trust fund depending on current and future needs. Congress has previously bailed out the Retirement/Survivor Trust Fund by allocating a higher percentage of payroll towards that fund at the expense of the Disability Fund as well as vice versa.

Unless a similar redistribution of payroll taxes is forthcoming, it appears that Social Security will be unable to fulfill its obligation to Disability benefit recipients.

The House of Representatives has passed a rule that is clearly an attempt to prevent the rescue of the Disability Trust Fund. http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/...14hres5pih.pdf

I believe this is an attempt to "divide and conquer". The disabled worker vs. the retired worker. There is a lot of talk about rampant fraud in the disability program, however, it is mostly anecdotal. The amount of fraud in the Disability component of Social Security is miniscule compared to the amount of fraud in the Medicare program.

Stay tuned.
Thanks, Lenora and Happy Texan. I'm tired of seeing "SSI" used incorrectly, and this is widespread and misleading.
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