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Old 03-08-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Well, that would be a good thread title, but it would also be a different subject matter from that raised by the original poster of this thread. In fact, I hope you won't be offended if I take your idea and start a thread.
Sure, no worries on starting a new thread with my idea....go for it!
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Old 03-08-2015, 03:06 PM
 
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There is nothing wrong with a person who love of life is what they do for a living. perhaps the luckiest of all really. I have many friends who do just that and will never retire really. To them its not work ;like a artist. my wife cousin is a artist and she has no desire to stop being so.
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Old 03-08-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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ER I was waiting for you to respond either here or in another thread. I really in retirement don't see you as a former teacher. Teaching is only a vehicle for activities that educators hopefully enjoy. The best activity a teacher can engage in is to be inspirational and spur on aspiration in others. Teaching I suspect was a vehicle for you to do that. At this stage of life you are using the chess clubs to continue to be inspirational and hopefully be able to get young people to enhance their aspiration. I see you and MathJak as being very similar in your desire to inspire and encourage others to raise their bar. MJ does it in abundance in this forum and has provided much inspiration to others to aspire to lofty financial goals. You don't bring yours into the forum often as you have your chess clubs as a vehicle. Careers are often a vehicle that allow us to fulfill our instincts, wants and needs. At least a good one does that. You have moved on from teaching and rarely discuss that but are full of vigor and enthusiasm for your Chess Clubs. You in my mind are beyond that work stage and have transitioned to another life that while it may take place in a school is much more focused and limited in scope then teaching. You are free to do the essence of what you wanted to do while working.
Tuborg, I appreciate the good will which is in evidence in your post, and also the kind words for me which are part of your goodwill. However, I think you are trying to fit me into a certain paradigm of your own making. The truth is I do see myself as a former teacher, even if you do not. Sure, my volunteer work is much more limited in scope than full-time teaching. But running a lunch time or after school chess club is something that teachers often do. If there is a chess club at a given school, chances are it will be a teacher running it. I ran one for years while teaching full time, and now I continue that as a volunteer.

My other volunteer activity is reading aloud to fifth grade classes once a week for 30 minutes. I read to six different classes spread out over three schools. That activity is even more "teacher-like". I go into a classroom, and I do more than just read aloud. In connection with the reading aloud, I ask questions to check for understanding, I explain vocabulary and concepts to foster understanding, and I answer questions which the students have about the reading. I feel very much like a teacher when I am doing that.

You are right that it is "another life" to the extent that I have left behind the on-going responsibilities of full-time teaching. And as a volunteer, if I don't enjoy a particular school I don't have to stay there, although given my sense of commitment and duty, I will stick it out to the end of a school year before bailing. But it is not "another life" in terms of the continuity with my former life or in terms of the way I think about it.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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I laughed out loud when I read this! You will *really* get upset when I streak your pickleball game!

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Good thinking!
This week a group of us are campaigning to round up the dozen or so Harley owners to see if we can restrict their bike use during afternoon naps and after dark!
Then we're going to get together to shun the 2 women that just spent a 4 day holiday in that degenerate place, Key West. Imagine! They asked someone to pick then up when they got back so they didn't have to chance a DWI. Then I overheard them talking to other folks that had been there. Oh my....didn't know we had so many of that kind in here!!
Terrible influences on the rest of us.
Maybe you can tell me a little bit more about yourself so I can get an idea of what other things I should watch out for.
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I laughed out loud when I read this! You will *really* get upset when I streak your pickleball game!

Monty55
Now you've done it!
You have succeeded where millions have failed...you pissed me off!
Just by bringing up the subject of pickleball!

I spent months getting approval to paint over just one of the beat up tennis courts to share with pickleball. Then spent days doing the lining and painting....on my knees, the cheap way.
Then came back this fall to find that the resurfacing of the courts had finally been approved over the summer and bam! Gone was all my hard work! Now they're reluctant to 'mess them up' again.
I think we're the only park without what has become one of the fastest growing and popular sports for the old and feeble.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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Did I not *say* that the over-55 communities would throw me out? See, already you don't like me, and you've not even met me! LOL

The very notion of having to spend "months to get approval" just so you can work on some minor project, that would do good for many...brings back all the frustration of my entire career spent in Government I didn't retire to go back to all that!

See, that's what I'm talkin' about, with over-55 communities. It's not the Hog-owners running their motors during nap time that concern me. It's the rules, rules, rules, and more rules, enforced by HOA boards full of other retirees on ego trips who are terrified somebody might Set A Precedent. I fear my frustration would cause me either to do something disruptive (e.g. streaking the shuffleboard court), or lapse into weary depression.

Monty55

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Now you've done it!
You have succeeded where millions have failed...you pissed me off!
Just by bringing up the subject of pickleball!

I spent months getting approval to paint over just one of the beat up tennis courts to share with pickleball. Then spent days doing the lining and painting....on my knees, the cheap way.
Then came back this fall to find that the resurfacing of the courts had finally been approved over the summer and bam! Gone was all my hard work! Now they're reluctant to 'mess them up' again.
I think we're the only park without what has become one of the fastest growing and popular sports for the old and feeble.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Fair enough, but do keep in mind, it's not the 55+ designation that can be the source of frustration.
It's any HOA community.
To be fair, ours is quite relaxed and, some would say, truthfully, perhaps too lenient.
The time frame for approval was because of only once a month meetings, bring it up....wait a month while documents are checked concerning the tennis courts....next month, discussion among members which leads to what in general should be done with deteriorated courts....etc, etc, etc. By then, half the park leaves for the cooler north.
Even if you don't go for the old folks place, you have to be careful of restrictions , some pretty stringent.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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Fair enough, but do keep in mind, it's not the 55+ designation that can be the source of frustration.
It's any HOA community.
To be fair, ours is quite relaxed and, some would say, truthfully, perhaps too lenient.
The time frame for approval was because of only once a month meetings, bring it up....wait a month while documents are checked concerning the tennis courts....next month, discussion among members which leads to what in general should be done with deteriorated courts....etc, etc, etc. By then, half the park leaves for the cooler north.
Even if you don't go for the old folks place, you have to be careful of restrictions , some pretty stringent.
They need to get it into gear - once a month meetings is crazy. No excuse for that.
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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They need to get it into gear - once a month meetings is crazy. No excuse for that.
It's difficult to object to something people volunteer to do if one isn't willing to step up and do it but in this case, it's the way the docs were set up that dictates the once a month public meetings.

More than half those elected spend a lot of their time on various aspects of this "job" .
They confer with each other in between times...not like nothing is being done.
We can barely get 25 percent of owners to attend even when there's a controversial item in the wind and not infrequently don't get the quorum necessary for voted issues (even though the ballots can be mailed in)

Good, in time to edit..............to add.......using the situation with the pickleball/tennis courts was supposed to be a 'humorous' thing to the conversation . It involved several things more complicated than mentioned so wasn't a good example of how everything does or doesn't get done.

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Old 03-14-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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To continue my conversation with the OP about the connections and the relationships between my former working life and my current retired life, I am quoting below a portion of a DM I received which astutely analyzed my feeling about my current volunteer work, its meaning for me, and its connection to the past. I have slightly edited the comment for clarity because I am adopting it as my own statement. Naturally I omit the name of the poster who wrote to me, as I don't have his permission to identify him.


"....you've spent the now 49 working years of your life interacting with/in the presence of others and that is what you haven't/can't/won't "give-up"... and that's why you still find it so rewarding/fulfilling be it "paid career" or "volunteer". I would bet that if/when you "stop" these outlets, you will wither away and "die". You remain part of a larger (and familiar) world and there is much security/good feeling in that which you have not "retired" - has nothing to do with the "job" at all! And you still feel "valued" which is a HUGE plus as one ages/"retires".


I especially endorse the final sentence of the quote. It is especially true, I think, for those of us who are divorced and live alone. I know feeling valued is, for me, the great gift which "money cannot buy". And as much as I enjoy and value my voluminous reading, my foreign films, my live classical music concerts, etc., there would be a large hole if I didn't have that feedback of feeling valued and appreciated.
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