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Old 03-29-2015, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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So if you had to choose your "annoyances", and all other things being equal, which kinda place would you find the easiest to, um "tolerate", and why?
I live in a liberal academic area. Out in the "hilltowns," away from the cluster of college towns, there is a mix of richer and poorer, what you would probably call yuppie and redneck. (I don't see much hippie lifestyle around anymore. Around here...maybe not so much in CA...over the years hippie has seemed to morph into yuppie...perhaps there is always a shade of hippie in many yups? ).

If you are looking at rural areas with decently high property values (i.e., desirable) and any kind of academic/intellectual bent anywhere close by, that's the kind of mix you're going to get...yuppie/redneck. That is, by stereotypical definitions. Both like to live rural. Maybe hippies too, but again, I wouldn't know how to identify one these days. They are in disguise and unless one runs into a real old-fashioned hippie commune, I'm not sure most people would spot any.

If you're not looking at metro areas to move to, then you're looking at suburbs or rural. Suburban folks are not so easily defined. I would imagine your definition of redneck would live further out.

DH and I define ourselves as "adaptogens." We get along with all socioeconomic and lifestyle groups, and we have typically served "the rich" in the kind of professional work we have done. Some of these folks are "lifestylers," must have coffee shops, bistros, yoga studios, etc. That's all fine, sometimes we participate, sometimes not. We do not define ourselves in any one way.

So I guess what I'm saying is you may be being too wary for nothing. Even where there is a predominance of one of the groups you define, there's always others. Unless you are talking about places like in the South where you may be asked what church you attend and that gets to you. Or places where motorcycle clubs are revving it up in your neighborhood (I happen to like motorcycles, but not parades roaring through town).

Or you may really be meaning political leanings, in which case I could understand your OP better. Like you can't stand liberals or conservatives and their attitudes or influences. I think many of us "define" people more in that way, mostly because their beliefs and actions can have a very direct impact on our lives and our values through legislation. For ex, even though I do not need public assistance, I would not at all like living in a place that does nothing for the truly underprivileged. That is my value system, and if it means I pay a little more in taxes for it, fine. I'd rather pay more in taxes for that than pay for things that the wealthy cook up to have their names engraved on.

Just some thoughts before I turn on Sunday night TV. It's PBS, so does that make me a yuppie?
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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I would like to see a definition of each of these terms from the OP, so we're all on the same page re: who we're talking about. Everyone has their own subjective notion of definitions, and as I said earlier, it's almost always stereotyping. So....definitions?
Where do you think stereotypes come from?
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Where do you think stereotypes come from?
Definitions are for the most part subjective, but in understanding the OP's definitions perhaps responders can better address her concerns. If you ask five people what a hippie is, you may get at least 4 different answers. (–:
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Old 03-29-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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Seattle, the modern day hippy/yuppy combo = a hipster, is the place where they reign supreme, right after the yuppies, ....very libertarian though, which is a good thing, but simultaneously, somewhat pompous and elitist imo. No one is fighting the civil war out west here though, that mentality does not exist out west imo......another good thing. Rednecks, are in every state, fine as long as they are friendly and welcoming.
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Old 03-29-2015, 07:16 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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I would like to see a definition of each of these terms from the OP, so we're all on the same page re: who we're talking about. Everyone has their own subjective notion of definitions, and as I said earlier, it's almost always stereotyping. So....definitions?
My sense is that, as you say, you're gonna see a 'mix' most everywhere, especially in more urban areas, where everyone more or less tries to 'get along' and 'adapt' regardless. But what I'm referring to, is the kinda places, often in smaller and more 'rural' areas, where folks tend to feel like they're around their own 'kind', so they sorta let it "hang out" a lot more.

For example, here in NorCal you can go from the "Emerald Triangle" on the North Coast, where there are mostly folks of the very liberal, 'counter-culture' persuasion, along with the few remaining 'rednecks' left over from the mostly defunct logging and fishing days. And they all reasonably get along, although there's little question these days which group tends to dominate now.

While if you go farther inland, into the valley and Sierra foothills, it's pretty obviously very conservative (think Sarah Palin types), where Harleys, and big pickem-ups with Nascar and "Nobama" stickers are more the "norm". We can call 'em rednecks, hillbillies, or whatever, but it's clearly a distinct, and dominant, "culture" with its own set of values, and it's also clear that you're on their 'turf'.

Upwardly mobile 'yuppies' you can sorta find anywhere, although in these smaller towns they tend to be more apparent in the 'burbs, malls and 'big box' stores, along with the occasional better restaurants. And even the 'gentrified' hippies ("huppies'?) in redneck areas seem to hang out more in yuppie businesses (galleries, coffee shops, health food stores, etc.), but Walmart and the local mom-n-pop stores, not so much.

BTW, I drive a sporty "furin" convertible that you don't see much in rural areas, and I can't tell 'ya how many times I'll get some humongous 4x4 perched just inches from my rear bumper at a stoplight, who's obviously just 'messing' with someone they figure clearly "ain't from around here" (lol)!

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Old 03-29-2015, 08:26 PM
 
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I'd be between hippy and redneck. I just can't stand nascar, televised team sports or religious obsessiveness. Pickups and dogs are cool

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Old 03-29-2015, 09:30 PM
 
Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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Easy for me.
Live in large socialist city of Denver.
Live in neighborhood where "charmers" cost $400K and new build duplex sides cost $650K.
That pretty much dictates who your neighbors will be.
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Back and Beyond
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Move to Homer Alaska and have all three side by side! Hippies, Yuppies, Rednecks, Fisherman, or right weirdos, you name em', homers got em.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:42 PM
 
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I choose a place with libertarian rednecks
This ^ 100!! Those yuppies and flower children take themselves much too seriously and are really in your face about it.

This is from a person (me) who should be most at home in yuppie-dom, but could care less about the edgy one-upsmanship that characterizes "yuppie" culture. And who likes freedom much too much to have it legislated away by holier-than-thou zealots who heap insult to injury by wanting to take MY money to do it (referring to libruls. I know the original comparison was to "hippies").
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:19 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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If you had to choose a place to retire that seemed like a pretty good "fit" in most ways (locale, weather, size, economy, etc.), but was otherwise predominantly either one "cultural extreme" or another…say, like either mostly "hippy", "yuppie", or else had a very high "redneck" quotient… which kinda place would you prefer?

For example, while "it takes all kinds", and everywhere has some sort of "mix", some places seem to 'lean' one way more than others, each with their 'downside'. Personally I tend to prefer more "rustic" values than somewhere with a high concentration of yuppies, although I don't much relate to redneck 'culture' either (Nascar, Harleys, tats, C/W music, etc.). But even as a "lib-rul", I also kinda get tired of too many 'earth mother', p.c., 'new-agey', hipper-than-thou folks too.

So if you had to choose your "annoyances", and all other things being equal, which kinda place would you find the easiest to, um "tolerate", and why?

An absence of red necks would suit me just fine. Why? Because *in general* they are the group who are least tolerant of those with whom they disagree.They are clanish, and if you disagree and are and outsider, in my experience they can make you feel very..unwelcome if you differ with them.

I have met a few nice ones. But when they are in large groups and you are in the minority, they can be unpleasant if you are not one of them. But again, individually, I've met and have known some self proclaimed rednecks who are funny and decent folks. People with a sense of humor are easier to take.

It also comes down to things that I like to do. I'd rather go to a book club or a wine tasting than a Nascar event. I am more comfortable at an art opening or a museum than a rodeo or pig wrestling.

I don't eat meat so meat centered events - barbecues or hunting - would not be my cup of tea.

I think that today many people have tattoos who are not "rednecks". Perhaps different types.

And yes, I am a liberal and sometimes people who are overly hipster, new age oriented and pseudo intellectual can be grating - especially when they are humorless.

But if I'd have to chose, I'd chose to retire with a mix of hippies and yuppies. A sprinkling of red necks would be OK.
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