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Old 03-30-2015, 12:20 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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^ ^ But isn't obsessing over money, possessions, property values and the like, really one of the defining values of "yuppies" in the first place?
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Old 03-30-2015, 01:06 AM
 
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Another vote for Hippies.
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Old 03-30-2015, 02:49 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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^ ^ But isn't obsessing over money, possessions, property values and the like, really one of the defining values of "yuppies" in the first place?
I am personally translating "yuppie" from the 1980s definition of unbridled consumerism and bimmer worship to mean something more like "college educated, book reading, fit, socially and environmentally aware, somewhat intellectual, and upwardly mobile people - more apt to bargain shop at Target than Walmart.

If they shop regularly at thrift shops and listen to and collect vinyl records they may be "hipsters".

I think hipsters are a blend of 80s yuppies and 60s hippies.
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Palmer/Fishhook, Alaska
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Yuppies win over the ignorance of rednecks and the unkempt slackerhood of hippies
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Old 03-30-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default O.K., let's define and discuss yuppies.

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^ ^ But isn't obsessing over money, possessions, property values and the like, really one of the defining values of "yuppies" in the first place?
"Obsessing"? Perhaps. But isn't "yuppie" a sort of acronym for "young, urban professional"? If that is correct, then "obsessing" is not an automatic go-with, even if it is quite common. To be a young, urban professional implies a certain level of education and financial comfort, and from that it is easy to see other traits included by stereotype. Isn't a lot of the negativity rooted in jealousy? Young, urban professionals certainly do not all share the same values.
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Old 03-30-2015, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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^ ^ But isn't obsessing over money, possessions, property values and the like, really one of the defining values of "yuppies" in the first place?
I would still like to see your definition of a yuppie.

I can't speak for other areas of the country, but there is one huge "category" of people you left out in your OP. And that is what I call "regulars"—working class people of all incomes who do not subscribe to any particular lifestyle. They may be churchgoers but are not evangelistic. They work 40-hour weeks and may have raised families. They don't buy $5 lattés, do yoga and tai chi, drive trucks with guns in the back and drink beer by the sixpack, don't grow gardens or hug trees, aren't drug addicts. They are just middle of the road and lead responsible lives, rich or less rich (but they may "obsess over money" and have really nice things), with good to average values. They may have the prejudices (often do) but don't wear them on their sleeves. These are the majority of people I know "in the middle," and who knows how large a "category they make up nationwide. (this P contains a lot of stereotyping based on responses here)

I resist the simple categories because I see such blended values and lifestyles these days. Not every yuppie drives a Subaru or Volvo; not every hippie drives a VW bus. It's ridiculous to think that way.

How are these defined groups of folks going to impact your life, really, unless they live next door to you or are in your face? If you are retired, are you going to be hanging out with these folks, or mostly with your family and/or people like you whom you seek out after you move?

As I mentioned, I live in a liberal lifestyle area with a heavy influence from academia/environmentalism. I often get sick of the lifestyler culture around here that hangs out in coffee shops with their laptops and ipads, etc. I could easily name it a "me" kind of culture, but I know better than to make assumptions. And I like my fresh roasted coffee from a shop, too.

A biker band I know of raises a lot of money for charities. They're good "guys and gals" and they hang with their kind. Would I join them? No. Would I shun them? Not necessarily, unless they were directly making my life miserable in some way.

I have little resonance with the "typical" yuppie (if there is such a thing), however I do subscribe to wellness and organically grown foods, we have a garden, and we feel strongly about not wrecking the earth we live on and the air we breathe. It's just common sense. Nonetheless, I am in the broad working class category and I think many, many people are.

Maybe you should ask specific questions in specific state forums (states you are thinking about) about whether certain kinds of lifestyles are overwhelming/in your face. It would be unfortunate to move to an ideal area in other respects and find out that the people are not your kind.
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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^ ^ But isn't obsessing over money, possessions, property values and the like, really one of the defining values of "yuppies" in the first place?
That's the 80's definition, made famous by "Alex Keaton". Here's the modern definition:

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Old 03-30-2015, 08:16 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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If that's the issue, I'd stick with no/practically no zoning law places. So you can at least eliminate the yuppies. Now it's between the rednecks and hippies, however you define them.
I would consider it a far reach to call the extreme environmentalists hippies, they are more often the hypocritical yuppies, who fight for environmental causes but drive a Lexus to the protests. The modern hippie may be a CEO or high level manager, but still listens to 60s music, grows their own vegetables in their garden, is laid back, dresses very casually when not at work, is open to new, different ideas.
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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"Obsessing"? Perhaps. But isn't "yuppie" a sort of acronym for "young, urban professional"? If that is correct, then "obsessing" is not an automatic go-with, even if it is quite common. To be a young, urban professional implies a certain level of education and financial comfort, and from that it is easy to see other traits included by stereotype. Isn't a lot of the negativity rooted in jealousy? Young, urban professionals certainly do not all share the same values.
now define redneck and hippie
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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None of the above. I would rather hang out at the beach with the parrotheads.
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