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Old 03-30-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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I would vote for cowboys, but since "hippies" have taken over my quiet small mountain town not much of a choice. Nothing like seeing a 70 year old man in a pony tail and tie die tshirt trying to re-live the 1960's.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:22 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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I would still like to see your definition of a yuppie.
Well, I'd like to see a little less "hair-splitting" too (among other thangs!), especially since most other folks seem to understand the differences, at least enuff to answer the OP. I'll say one thing about redneck folks, at least they seem to be a pretty straightforward bunch, and usually not prone to endless 'nitpicking' (or maybe you've just been living around 'yuppie academics' for too long…lol)!

BTW, it's still possible to share "yuppie" values, even if someone is "financially indisposed". Just look at the Hipsters starting out now, or else their 'geezer' counterparts these days, heading into retirement… and both groups have very "expensive tastes" that sorta define them (except they both have beer budgets)!
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:29 AM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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Well, I thought this was just for fun.

But if we need definitions and examples, my examples would be--yuppie-urban or suburban, drives a Volvo, Prius, Lexus, lives in a bigger than normal house because they think that makes them superior, doesn't garden, it's dirty, makes sure to get "seen" at all the right places, places great emphasis on designer brands. In other words, a snob who is always going to try to one-up you no matter what you say or do. A show off, a social climber. Brags about places he has been and things he has done.

A hippie-has an organic garden, reads books, often of a philosphical nature, enjoys art (not like a yuppie who PRETENDS to enjoy art), could be an artist or musician, is open minded, doesn't place great emphasis on money or material goods and is not into consumerism, drives a practical car that is not the latest and greatest, cares a lot about the earth and the environment. Probably has traveled and done things but only for his own curiousity and does not brag, is humble.

A redneck--Makes the worst kind of neighbor. Loud country music, has a pack of dogs and could be a backyard breeder who sells the dogs, eats barbeque, has a lot of raggedy dressed kids, is uneducated, drives a pickup truck, has guns, is best off living in the woods or a very small town where he can do whatever he wants. If you are unlucky enough to have one as a neighbor, as I did--they show absolutely no respect or consideration because they value the right to do whatever they want and when they want. If you ask them to be quiet, they will swear at you. Their kids will swear at you. The state motto for New Hampshire would suit them well: Live Free or Die.

Lots of people are a mixture. (Is there anyone I have not offended, lol).
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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Anything but a Redneck and I am in SC........LOL
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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I've found they are all fine to live around. Rednecks have different degrees though. If someone's got dirt bikes or always getting drunk with friends it can be a headache. If it's just a quiet redneck (like they are here in Minnesota) it's no big deal.

The worst people to live around are: frat bros, bike messengers, crack heads, and puerto ricans. I hate to sound racist on that last one, as I like all people on a personal level, but no other group I've lived near BLASTS horrible reggaeton music at all hours of the night.
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Well, I thought this was just for fun.

But if we need definitions and examples, my examples would be--yuppie-urban or suburban, drives a Volvo, Prius, Lexus, lives in a bigger than normal house because they think that makes them superior, doesn't garden, it's dirty, makes sure to get "seen" at all the right places, places great emphasis on designer brands. In other words, a snob who is always going to try to one-up you no matter what you say or do. A show off, a social climber. Brags about places he has been and things he has done.

A hippie-has an organic garden, reads books, often of a philosphical nature, enjoys art (not like a yuppie who PRETENDS to enjoy art), could be an artist or musician, is open minded, doesn't place great emphasis on money or material goods and is not into consumerism, drives a practical car that is not the latest and greatest, cares a lot about the earth and the environment. Probably has traveled and done things but only for his own curiousity and does not brag, is humble.

A redneck--Makes the worst kind of neighbor. Loud country music, has a pack of dogs and could be a backyard breeder who sells the dogs, eats barbeque, has a lot of raggedy dressed kids, is uneducated, drives a pickup truck, has guns, is best off living in the woods or a very small town where he can do whatever he wants. If you are unlucky enough to have one as a neighbor, as I did--they show absolutely no respect or consideration because they value the right to do whatever they want and when they want. If you ask them to be quiet, they will swear at you. Their kids will swear at you. The state motto for New Hampshire would suit them well: Live Free or Die.

Lots of people are a mixture. (Is there anyone I have not offended, lol).
I agree with your opening thought; when I read the original post, I, too, assumed this was just for fun. But since some posters insist on hair-splitting and agonizing about exactly how we define the three terms, well then that is how the thread has developed. When it comes down to it, we all know what yuppies, hippies, and rednecks are, even if our individual conceptions will differ somewhat.

Let's take your definitions, which I found interesting because they betray deep biases. (Disclaimer: I am not any of the three myself, so I have no dog in this fight.) You made a considerable effort to portray yuppies and rednecks in the most negative light possible, while the same considerable effort went into portraying hippies in the most positive light possible. Not that your definitions don't include elements of the truth - I think all three definitions do include such elements. But how one words them and what one leaves out can really make a tremendous difference.

Now a trivial side issue: What's with the "eats barbeque"? What does that have to do with anything? Is it a way of saying that rednecks are not normally vegetarians? If so, I would agree. Or are you saying that most hippies are vegetarians? If so, you may be correct, because I have not known enough hippies or spent enough time around them to have a definitive answer on that question. I am about as far from a redneck as one can be by almost any measure, but I sometimes eat barbeque. So perhaps by that single measure I am redneck-like? Would you subscribe to that?
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: middle tennessee
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How is it fun to stereotype people on a public forum? How is this different from jokes about race? It's not like we're sitting around someone's living room. I could be rolling on the floor laughing in a different venue.

I don't think the OP meant to be unkind, but I don't agree with the poster who thinks that we all "know" what the stereotypes mean, unless everyone knows but me.

Say I have no sense of humor. (I said it ). I can live with that.

Escort Rider, you may not have a dog in this fight, but you certainly fit a well known stereotype.

I wore a clean tee shirt to my wedding. I warshed it in the crick behind the outhouse. I did get a little barbecue on it at the reception. But that was 65 years ago. Times has changed since me and cousin Jeb got hitched.
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Escort Rider, you may not have a dog in this fight, but you certainly fit a well known stereotype.
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And what stereotype would that be?
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Well, I'd like to see a little less "hair-splitting" too (among other thangs!), especially since most other folks seem to understand the differences, at least enuff to answer the OP. I'll say one thing about redneck folks, at least they seem to be a pretty straightforward bunch, and usually not prone to endless 'nitpicking' (or maybe you've just been living around 'yuppie academics' for too long…lol)!

BTW, it's still possible to share "yuppie" values, even if someone is "financially indisposed". Just look at the Hipsters starting out now, or else their 'geezer' counterparts these days, heading into retirement… and both groups have very "expensive tastes" that sorta define them (except they both have beer budgets)!
I'm not trying to nitpick or hairsplit. I'm trying to understand you better and what you're wanting to avoid in a move. If you define a hippie in a certain way and I'm thinking some other definition, then my answer to your OP means nothing.

I have redneck friends. One of my sons' behavior is a bit redneck, according to some of the definitions here. But he's mostly a working guy, in construction, and a family man, best defined that way.

Maybe if you said what kinds of behavior you don't want to live near, like frat parties, evangelicals, people who care about the environment, people who don't, etc., that would be more accurate than labeling folks (?)
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:09 AM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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I agree with your opening thought; when I read the original post, I, too, assumed this was just for fun. But since some posters insist on hair-splitting and agonizing about exactly how we define the three terms, well then that is how the thread has developed. When it comes down to it, we all know what yuppies, hippies, and rednecks are, even if our individual conceptions will differ somewhat.

Let's take your definitions, which I found interesting because they betray deep biases. (Disclaimer: I am not any of the three myself, so I have no dog in this fight.) You made a considerable effort to portray yuppies and rednecks in the most negative light possible, while the same considerable effort went into portraying hippies in the most positive light possible. Not that your definitions don't include elements of the truth - I think all three definitions do include such elements. But how one words them and what one leaves out can really make a tremendous difference.

Now a trivial side issue: What's with the "eats barbeque"? What does that have to do with anything? Is it a way of saying that rednecks are not normally vegetarians? If so, I would agree. Or are you saying that most hippies are vegetarians? If so, you may be correct, because I have not known enough hippies or spent enough time around them to have a definitive answer on that question. I am about as far from a redneck as one can be by almost any measure, but I sometimes eat barbeque. So perhaps by that single measure I am redneck-like? Would you subscribe to that?

Well, as you understand, it's mostly in jest. Also, I don't see how anyone can be pigeonholed into one group or another AND I thought this conversation was casual for just for fun. But with that in mind, I do like hippies the most--you noticed that. Not the kind of hippies that came later, the degenerates who took drugs and were filthy, but the early Make Love Not War type who truly cared about things and were sincere. They would read The Mother Earth News and believed in it.

I don't fall into any of the three groups either--and I don't believe most people do.

To me a yuppie is what I used to run into at art openings. Some of us were there because we truly loved art; others were there to be seen in the right place, drinking champagne. My Ex was a true music lover and he despised the yuppies who would frequent Tanglewood because it was "the place to be." A yuppie cousin of mine once commented at a classical music concert that this was a good place to be "seen." (She and my Ex did not get along and he actually put her in her place later that night.) He, as a lowly ticket seller and fund raiser, actually introduced her to the person she had been bragging about. She said she had met So and So's daughter--well, HE introduced her to So and So!!!! That was at the reception following the concert and it was fun seeing her mouth drop, lol.

To me a yuppie is a status climbing phony who is driven to posses things so that he can show off, goes places so that he can brag and feel smug and superior. They're not bad to live next to, just annoying. They will look down on you for anything. They will look down upon you if you mow your own lawn; they pay someone to do everything and somehow that makes them superior. Inwardly they probably feel insecure.

Rednecks--I had the neighbor from Hell, a redneck who had rusty cars in his yard and seemed to carry a chainsaw at all times. Loud music all day long while he drank beer and hollered at his kids. No consideration for others at all. Redneck is the least understood genre, to me. I said "barbeque" because where I used to live there was an eating place called "Barbeque" and a friend and I used to joke about it, saying that's where the rednecks hang out. Don't they really eat road kill? They have tacky lawn ornaments and they grow flowers in old tires. Honey Boo Boo. Rednecks.

Now I'll go and whip up some of that barbeque!
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