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Old 05-01-2015, 04:26 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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"why ? mostly because many can't pass drug testing ,background checks or credit checks. these things were rare decades ago , today they are common pre-screening ."

I totally agree and would add, no drivers license, many lost due to not paying child support, very common today.
Ding, Ding, Ding!!!! THOSE are the issues that most commonly keep the people that whine about not being able to get or keep a job from being able to do so.

I have told out kids REPEATEDLY, Ya know, we grew up where the kid got in trouble, got sent before a judge and was told "boy, you can go into the military or to jail, take your pick"....and those that went military and did well, never had a "record"....now everything you DO (and something's YOU don't do but have to take credit for because of ID theft) follows you for LIFE and will cause/create issues you can not even imagine at the time of the "offense". Sad truth is the data bases of today will make your future HELL if you screw up bad enough...for everything from renting an apt, buying a car, to getting a job.
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I'll repeat: unless you were in a coma, it's all on you. Did you not know that your tags expired? Was your car up on blocks? Did you not receive mail at all when you were in the hospital? Did the person who owned the property turn you in?

I'm thinking there's much more to the story here......
Wow...since your hospital stay did not interfere with your ability to post on this forum, perhaps you should have used the same online services to take care of your bills/tickets/registration/requirements of being a grown up with all the privilege's you seem to feel ENTITLED to! I can take care of EVERYTHING I am required to pay with a phone/internet access....
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Central NY
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If that is your opinion, I hope you will understand when that SAME government you feel has no right to make you prepare to support yourself REFUSES to do it for you when you are without....the old saying is "waste not, want not".
Then there is "The Lord helps those who help themselves."

I am not religious by any count, but I do believe there is a lot of truth in that, too.
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:59 PM
 
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Oddstray,I have to agree with your previous post about the middle schooler's mentality. I know of what I speak having taught grades six through twelve.

I am not a regular poster but even if I were, I like to feel that I could maintain my civility even for people whose life experiences and interpretations are so different from my own. I teach kindergarten now at the advanced age of 66 so that might explain my attitude!

Some unpleasant and somewhat distastful comments are being expressed about a certain poster which would not be tolerated in my class.
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Oddstray,I have to agree with your previous post about the middle schooler's mentality. I know of what I speak having taught grades six through twelve.

I am not a regular poster but even if I were, I like to feel that I could maintain my civility even for people whose life experiences and interpretations are so different from my own. I teach kindergarten now at the advanced age of 66 so that might explain my attitude!

Some unpleasant and somewhat distastful comments are being expressed about a certain poster which would not be tolerated in my class.
A lot of these attack comments do smack of immaturity.
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Oddstray,I have to agree with your previous post about the middle schooler's mentality. I know of what I speak having taught grades six through twelve.

I am not a regular poster but even if I were, I like to feel that I could maintain my civility even for people whose life experiences and interpretations are so different from my own. I teach kindergarten now at the advanced age of 66 so that might explain my attitude!

Some unpleasant and somewhat distastful comments are being expressed about a certain poster which would not be tolerated in my class.
The City-Data public internet forum is not a kindergarten class. We are supposedly all adults here. Bad analogy.
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Ding, Ding, Ding!!!! THOSE are the issues that most commonly keep the people that whine about not being able to get or keep a job from being able to do so.

I have told out kids REPEATEDLY, Ya know, we grew up where the kid got in trouble, got sent before a judge and was told "boy, you can go into the military or to jail, take your pick"....and those that went military and did well, never had a "record"....now everything you DO (and something's YOU don't do but have to take credit for because of ID theft) follows you for LIFE and will cause/create issues you can not even imagine at the time of the "offense". Sad truth is the data bases of today will make your future HELL if you screw up bad enough...for everything from renting an apt, buying a car, to getting a job.
While it's true that your "record" follows you, the fact is that a failed pre-employment drug test does not. It just keeps you from being hired for the job you're applying for if everything else is okay, and that's a much bigger issue than kids who got in trouble when young and then straighten themselves out.

If you're seriously hunting for a job, you have to stay off pot and other drugs because most employers screen for drug use. Unfortunately for them, many job seekers haven't figured that out.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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today credit checks too count heavily. after all , when an employer has to make a snap judgement about you and has little to go on , having poor credit can mean you have a history of poor decisions and choices .

the thinking is if you can't handle your own money what are you going to do with company resources .

whether true ,reasons or not does not matter. all that counts is they may not really care the reason , they just take someone with good credit scores and save themselves the trouble of digging.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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We are supposedly all adults here.
Who knew.
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Old 05-02-2015, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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I have a new friend, from the senior gym, who moved back here from the West Coast because of job loss at 63 (her company folded). A small pension plus SS and probably savings/annuity. She lives frugally but always presents so nicely. Her lovely tiny 3-room apartment overlooks a park. She is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met, really well-read esp on history and social issues. I get more enjoyment out of her company than I do from any of my other friends who happen to be wealthy. Although I'm sure she'd rather have lots of money (?), she seems to be living her life within her constraints with a certain kind of richness.
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