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Old 05-11-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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great. i intend to use his method of withdrawal through retirement. i like the idea of having a dynamic budget that is governed by the real world conditions.
Added it to my amazon list as well.

BTW thank you everyone for your responses, both encouraging, and discouraging. Both help me.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:43 PM
 
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Considering a change in lifestyle/early retirement for me and the wife. She's disabled, And Im a software engineer for a large well known multinational. We have a house with a mortgage. I work, and earn a very comfortable wage. However the sheer expenses of the mortgage, and all the other bills associated with things means I am not getting ahead like I would like too. And work is....lets just be charitable and call it stressful. while I am making very good money Im not actually enjoying much of anything in life. The last kid of 8 is looking at moving out this coming summer. I no longer have a responsibility to provide a home for my children.

So we are considering a working retirement. Basically we want to sell the large home, purchase a RV add in 30-40K in customizations, and travel in it, camping on BLM lands, and keeping our expenses as low as possible. While...relaxing. Looking at it, we could sell the house, buy a large RV custom designed for boondocking (ie living in a area without power, water, etc provided), and still have about 50K left, in addition to a guaranteed income of about 700/month. I figure we could manage anywhere from 3-4 years with no other income if we were frugal. Obviously since we are 45 that would be a horrible plan if we weren't thinking of the future. So the plan is...I will take a year to see if I can write some software of my own to make money with, she will work on her books (she has been published-but not for a large income). At the end of that year we will re-evaluate, and if we aren't making it or staying at the same level then I will go back to work.

For me, working for myself, doing the software projects *I* want...thats retirement. I actually can't imagine NOT working or doing anything. But the idea of doing what I want...thats heaven.

You can look at it a couple ways...I want to live in a very large van...down by the river....Or you can consider it exchanging a high stress lifestyle with no actual life, for a life of relaxing in the forest while coding software.

Has anyone done something similar to this on the boards here?
The Amazon workamping program is pretty good. Work 10 hr days with 2 hrs overtime each day. I believe the pay is $12 then a .50 cent bonus per hr if you stay until the end. You are picking and packing for the Xmas season from mid Nov- Dec 22nd. Amazon pays for the campsite.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:56 AM
 
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The Amazon workamping program is pretty good. Work 10 hr days with 2 hrs overtime each day. I believe the pay is $12 then a .50 cent bonus per hr if you stay until the end. You are picking and packing for the Xmas season from mid Nov- Dec 22nd. Amazon pays for the campsite.
Good information for people who might be interested in that sort of thing. However, I don't see how you can call that "pretty good". A person would have to be desperate to work for $12 per hour. I would find it depressing as hell to be forced into that kind of non-paying employment.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:47 AM
 
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Good information for people who might be interested in that sort of thing. However, I don't see how you can call that "pretty good". A person would have to be desperate to work for $12 per hour. I would find it depressing as hell to be forced into that kind of non-paying employment.
Well that's you.
It adds about $335 a month to the income they've listed. $12 per hour for 8 hrs then the next two hours are overtime. Then add a .50 cent raise if you stay until the end- Dec 22nd

That equates to $13.70 per hr with a paid campsite and some catered lunches I didn't mention.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:54 AM
 
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Here in California, they are always looking for volunteer campground hosts. Some of the campgrounds aren't large and they don't require you to be on site 24/7 or anything, as you take no money. Just answer questions mainly

And after you get in a few years of volunteering, you can apply at the Tahoe National Forest and be paid hourly to be the campgroud host. But that is a real job, where you work for real and must be there during set times.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:27 AM
 
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For me, working for myself, doing the software projects *I* want...thats retirement. I actually can't imagine NOT working or doing anything. But the idea of doing what I want...thats heaven.

You can look at it a couple ways...I want to live in a very large van...down by the river....Or you can consider it exchanging a high stress lifestyle with no actual life, for a life of relaxing in the forest while coding software.

Has anyone done something similar to this on the boards here?
Sounds perfect to me. I am working on my own version of this.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:29 AM
 
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i suggest reading bob clyatt's book work less - live more . excellent guide for semi retirement.



Work Less, Live More: The Way to Semi-Retirement: Robert Clyatt: 9781413307054: Amazon.com: Books
Thanks for the suggestion, ordering from library.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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Good information for people who might be interested in that sort of thing. However, I don't see how you can call that "pretty good". A person would have to be desperate to work for $12 per hour. I would find it depressing as hell to be forced into that kind of non-paying employment.
DH got a minimum-wage job as a park attendant for our county. It's mostly hard, physical work.

He considers it's pretty cool to be paid to work out!
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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DH got a minimum-wage job as a park attendant for our county. It's mostly hard, physical work.

He considers it's pretty cool to be paid to work out!
Excellent point, namely that there are often other factors involved such as the side benefits (exercise in the case of your DH). Or the low-paying job may be enjoyable in other ways.

After all, I volunteer about 12 hours a week at zero pay.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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Excellent point, namely that there are often other factors involved such as the side benefits (exercise in the case of your DH). Or the low-paying job may be enjoyable in other ways.

After all, I volunteer about 12 hours a week at zero pay.
Just curious but where do you volunteer? not many people volunteer so that's nice
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