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Old 05-10-2015, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Money? Who cares? Honestly, what difference does it make? Money is the least of my worries and money is something which should never used to measure the success of an individual. We've all known a number of rich people who failed miserably at things that really mattered.

If I hit the lottery for $300 million tomorrow does that make me anymore successful than I already am? As far as money we have enough to live very comfortably in retirement wanting for nothing. What else could I possibly wish for that I don't already have?
Being that you "have enough to live very comfortably in retirement", it's easy for you to say "Money? Who cares? Honestly, what difference does it make?"

You might be singing a different tune about money if you were struggling, destitute, wondering if your hunger will result in trying the cat food.

It's all too easy to denigrate the value of something we have in abundance, since we take it for granted. Money is like that. Enough for a certain basic level of comfort is important.
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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In the final analysis and judgement will it be what we have accomplished in life that will ultimately matter or will it be what we have done with our lives? If the man who accomplishes great wealth and power has done little to better others and the man who has accomplished little wealth or power has lifted and improved many others who will ultimately be judged the better human? Yes this is a values based answer but that's the way we roll! It can be said that great wealth and power gives us the best opportunity to do great things or really screw the world up.

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Old 05-10-2015, 01:58 PM
 
Location: ☀️ SWFL ⛱ 🌴
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I'm another who has tried to be kind and help when I could. I work on being non-judgemental and to stay open in mind and body as I age, not always easy tasks for me.

I don't think there will be anyone at the end of my life making a list of pluses and minuses, no golden gate or reincarnation; I will just stop being. My Dad likes to say you are remembered for three generations and then you are truly gone.

Looking back on accomplishments and goals met is fine when I need a pat on my back or am trying to make sense of this life. My main focus is still trying to do the best I can now and to the end.

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Old 05-10-2015, 05:10 PM
 
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Wow! Someone mentions God or church and you call that Bible-bangy???

Lighten up.
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If he wasn't a preacher, there might be some cause for celebration. But, in as much as ministry was his JOB, it really doesn't count as being an admirable contribution. Sort of like saying, I made great donuts which made a lot of people happy.....when my job was to make donuts!

Me? I made my ex wife filthy rich. She thinks it is a pretty wonderful contribution. Me? Not so much.
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Old 05-10-2015, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Miraflores
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Helping others is what it is all about. Old proverbs give way to new one's and lessons are passed down from generation to generation.

My recent favorite is:
Build a man a fire and he will stay warm for one night. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life!
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Old 05-10-2015, 05:32 PM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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I've never been concerned about "making a difference." I use the skills I have to earn a living, obey laws, pay bills and taxes promptly, take care of my immediate family, and help others when they need something I am able to provide. If that's not enough for a reasonably well-lived life, then I give up.

Now, I do often look back and think, "Hmph, if I hadn't been so worried about getting in trouble/losing money/making an idiot of myself, I might have had a whole lot more fun, which is no longer even within my grasp."
Pretty much same thought process. One of my favorite comics of all time is two ants sitting on top of a toad stool looking up at the stars. One says to the other "Doesn't it just make you feel small and insignificant?"
You don't even need the cosmos to make you feel that way. Just look around in public and you will see lots of people you don't know with long family histories and stories that have great meaning to them. You aren't part of their stories and they aren't part of yours. It may happen that they intertwine or it may not. It doesn't diminish either story; the street vendor's story is as real and important as the banker's, the priest, the criminal, the cop and the homeless.
I think if you helped someone feel better or have an easier time of it or prevented something that would have made someone have a harder time of it, you made a difference. Be nice and clean up after yourself. Don't be greedy and don't be lazy.
Just my opinion.
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Old 05-10-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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Being that you "have enough to live very comfortably in retirement", it's easy for you to say "Money? Who cares? Honestly, what difference does it make?"

You might be singing a different tune about money if you were struggling, destitute, wondering if your hunger will result in trying the cat food.

It's all too easy to denigrate the value of something we have in abundance, since we take it for granted. Money is like that. Enough for a certain basic level of comfort is important.
I guess I should have clarified to say "if you have enough money isn't important.

Of course it is very important if you don't have enough.
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Old 05-10-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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Most people lead lives of abject insignificance, but few have the moral courage to accept this. Many made contributions on balance execrable and malign, but this is even harder to admit. On balance, the best life was lived by the aborted fetus. I'm not the first to observe this; a chap named Qoheleth (occasionally styled "Solomon") penned something similar thousands of years ago, and surely he wasn't the first.

The best that we can say, perhaps, is that we haven't been complete reprobates and jerks. But even this is plenty hard. Hamlet warned Ophelia: " Get thee to a nunnery: why wouldst thou be a breeder of sinners? I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me…" 400 years later, is there any better advice? Yet 7 billion people are testament to refusal to accede to it.

To the People of the Book I say: take solace in your Lord, and hope that the bargain that you've struck is good; that the rewards vouchsafed to you are not false, that Word is not merely word. To others, we can only acquit ourselves of what we know, and this is rarely even half of what we impute to it. I've published here and there, given speeches. Was anyone inspired? Is anyone the better for it? Am I?

And yet, as goes the Russian proverb, we can not jump higher than our heads. Acknowledging our finitude, there's less for which to be apologetic. The Easterners say wisely in their books, that even gods are insects miserably crawling, and their gods too, and so on, to infinite regression. Context. Age gives context, no? May we all comprehend our context, before our comprehension fails us.
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Old 05-10-2015, 07:50 PM
 
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Most people lead lives of abject insignificance, but few have the moral courage to accept this.
Yep. In 150 years, nobody will know anything about you or care that you existed. You will simply be a line on a genealogy tree.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:15 PM
 
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I think of my life really has phase that one seems to melt and another takes over. I think as long as your happy and satisfied ;you have lived well. Purpose means different things to different people just as we do not enjoy the same things.
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