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The 1st question I'd ask is this "pure hell" just a comfort thing or does it affect your health? If my retired parent told me they don't feel well in a climate as it affects their health negatively, I'd suggest to them to leave tomorrow. If it's just a comfort thing, personally, I think life is too short to live somewhere one is not happy living in for 1/3 of the year, especially if one has the flexibility to pick up and go as I'm assuming you're retired. And if someone decides to live in some other place, I'd suggest they do lots of research ahead of time on the weather if this is a big factor for them in any capacity and find a place where the temps/weather is too YOUR liking. And as you know in CA where you live(or in AZ), there are lots of different climate zones with radically different weather/temps just a few hours drive down the road, much of it based on elevation.
Option B: If you enjoy everything else about where you live except summer and you're retired with the finances to do so, have you considered traveling to cooler areas, perhaps renting a place during part or all of the summer?
First, it has been one week since the OP has been back to post in her own thread, so it is questionable whether she will see your suggestions.
Second, the OP explained in some posts subsequent to her original post that she is near destitute. So she does not have the financial resources to adopt your suggestions anyway.
You obviously mean well, but this OP has carefully constructed a list of reasons why she cannot do any of the things people have been suggesting.
First, it has been one week since the OP has been back to post in her own thread, so it is questionable whether she will see your suggestions.
Second, the OP explained in some posts subsequent to her original post that she is near destitute. So she does not have the financial resources to adopt your suggestions anyway.
You obviously mean well, but this OP has carefully constructed a list of reasons why she cannot do any of the things people have been suggesting.
Poverty always makes it extremely difficult to move.
In the case of the OP where they loathe the heat and are looking for 70F, the PacNW maritime climate is the best location I can think of. Seattle is extremely expensive and Portland is getting there but a smaller city might be more affordable. At sea level, it snows in the winter but it melts fairly quickly. It's never going to get insanely hot in the summer. I have zero insight how you might move to such a place with zero resources and needing the safety net to survive. I doubt any state is particularly welcoming to people from other states who need state resources to survive.
First, it has been one week since the OP has been back to post in her own thread, so it is questionable whether she will see your suggestions.
Second, the OP explained in some posts subsequent to her original post that she is near destitute. So she does not have the financial resources to adopt your suggestions anyway.
You obviously mean well, but this OP has carefully constructed a list of reasons why she cannot do any of the things people have been suggesting.
Got ya. Thank you for bringing that information to my attention.
I see it's been a week since OP responded but as someone who lives in Salem let me say we get hot here in the summer. We are currently in our 3rd week of 90+ weather and it looks like another until 80+ with not a drop of rain in sight. Things are changing - every year is getting hotter and dryer. It use to be AC was something you MIGHT need in August for a day or 2 but last couple years it's been pretty much a necessity June - August. It's definitely not the Oregon of my childhood!
Could you explain what that means? I'm not sure what direction you are talking about. thx.
What I think they may mean, is any place south of Austin the 4 seasons are not as noticeable. In other words, the winters are warmer, the summers are hot and humid, the autumns may be later in arriving and spring may be later in coming than, for example, those in the Dallas-Fort Worth area of north Texas.
Poverty always makes it extremely difficult to move.
In the case of the OP where they loathe the heat and are looking for 70F, the PacNW maritime climate is the best location I can think of. Seattle is extremely expensive and Portland is getting there but a smaller city might be more affordable. At sea level, it snows in the winter but it melts fairly quickly. It's never going to get insanely hot in the summer. I have zero insight how you might move to such a place with zero resources and needing the safety net to survive. I doubt any state is particularly welcoming to people from other states who need state resources to survive.
I've looked into the pacnw & since I had sad, I knew it wasn't for me. It looks so beautiful, hated to count it out but had to.
I was surprised to hear that Florida is too hot and humid 8 months out the year. I was under the impression that the weather was too hot and humid from May through September, which is 5 months.
I think the most ideal climate is in Hawaii. You can select the location to determine the best weather for you. The higher the elevation, the cooler. You also select the microclimate to determine how much precipitation you want. I me, it's not too hot or cold and not too humid. There are downsides, high cost of living, not an ideal location if you have chronic medical issues, or have other issues with the isolation. However, since the OP doesn't have enough financial resources, Hawaii isn't an option for them.
Another nearly ideal climate is in southern California south of LA. If San Diego is too expensive, then somewhere between Santa Ana and Oceanside would be less expensive. My brother in law lives in a senior trailer park in Santa Ana. The main expense is the lot rental, which is only $800 a month, which is pretty cheap. The trailer costs about $20K, which is dirt cheap. There's no property taxes, but a vehicle tax of about $200 a year.
However, maybe a snowbelt state with cooler summer weather plus cold and snowy winters would be a better compromise if the state has more generous public assistance.
If one goes back a couple of generations, the most common thing was for retired folks to simply stay put and keep doing the same stuff they always did. This may be the most common again in these fast-changing times.
Understood. However, there are places in this country where - even if you have a substantial retirement income - it would be foolhardy to stay. I'm not talkin' about the folk who moved there before the sequential bubbles: I'm talkin' about the economic refugees who came from elsewhere, and who blanch at the prospect of "retiring" in five years while still on the hook for a net $500K mortgage!
With the Great Recession engineered the way it was, most people who moved to the bubblicious areas strictly for a steady pay check. Many were smart and did not saddle themselves with that kind of debt. Quite a few were not, and consequently face the prospect of a $2500/mo nut on a $5000/mo income (if they're still married). I can tell you one thing about where I am (Metro DC): the backfill generation does not make enough to qualify for the wishing prices of those who want to leave, lol!
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