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Old 08-14-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Every profession is different and every set of job skills has a different level of demand. I was a high school teacher who retired at age 61. I was asked to come back for special projects, as I had the niche skill of running the state-mandated standardized testing, which is a complex operation at the high school level.

But the OP asked about full-time work, and that is different. I believe school districts are somewhat reluctant to hire older teachers if younger ones are available, for three reasons:

1. It is more likely older people will utilize the health insurance more, thus raising the average costs of the group to the school district.

2. A brand-new hire just out of college will start lower on the pay scale than a 60+ year old who carries a certain number of years into the pay scale.

3. The older teacher is more likely to be suffering from burn-out, or perhaps rapidly approaching that point.

So our hypothetical older school teacher would have to be lucky to find his particular subject matter in demand combined with the particular school district's willingness to incur the somewhat greater costs and take its chances on the burn-out issue.
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Old 08-14-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: land of ahhhs
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I'm not retired yet either (69), but if I did retire, I wouldn't be able to find a job with my current salary/benefit package. Yes, I could find work (medicine). It might be OK to go to temporary or part time work for less money, but right now I simply can't afford to retire IF I WANT TO MAINTAIN MY CURRENT STANDARD OF LIVING. Emphasized because, of course, I could retire and not buy the new pickup, travel, etc. Right now, hard as it is to endure the unimaginable BS, I try to work as little as possible and do the things I'd planned on doing when retired. When I did a round-the-world trip I worried about rushing. That old saying, "if you don't have time to do it right, do you have time to do it over?" In this case, yes. So, off I went. Planning the next.

I couldn't be gone from active practice long, or I'd be the cow in the china shop, like the bull above.
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Old 08-14-2015, 05:41 PM
 
Location: land of ahhhs
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A new company may figure the older worker will be facing health issues sooner or later, and needing time off for that, and may not want to take that risk. Plus of course the salary expectations of the older worker, when a young rookie can come in with all her techie knowledge for much less $ and willingness to work OT.
But, many seniors are already insured, already trained, not looking constantly to see if the grass is greener. And, yes, if they had been laid off, they may have salary expectations, but some retired people might be fine with independent contractor status. Even if higher salary, sometimes less expense. And, ta da!! not likely to go out on maternity leave.
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Old 08-14-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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In no way would I qualify for my old position. I retired from a huge corporation in 1991 as a mainframe computer systems supervisor. The results would be akin to a gorilla in a china shop. Technology has far surpassed my current knowledge of the field.
I work on a mainframe right now. Actually I'm an Oracle DBA on System Z, a large IBM mainframe with a test and prod Lpar. I had been an IMS dba and DB2 dba years ago, switched to unix/Linux/aix/nt O/S's and then when I lost a contract, I got called for a "mainframe oracle dba" job.

When they called, I had no idea you could even run Oracle on big iron.
5 years later..............still doing it.

Not retired yet, next April for me.
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Old 08-14-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Around 2000 I noticed a change in the market place for professional degree workers. I was prevented from hiring older professional degreed workers and thus when I retired I understood there would be no work. The market had changed and this is in a state license required field.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:31 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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3. The older teacher is more likely to be suffering from burn-out, or perhaps rapidly approaching that point.
I don't agree with you. I think burn-out is something more cyclical, throughout a person's career. That's why taking a sabbatical is such a great idea.

But then, once rested and with new ideas...go back and share your knowledge and enthusiasm.
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Old 08-14-2015, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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When I retired, I had 2 of the competitors offer me jobs. They did it in a sneaky way, before I retired, these companies requested help on a few of my products that had been out sourced to them. While I was there they wined and dined me and were always talking up the area. Then I had my old company ask me to come back as a contractor, I did that, and ended up traveling the whole time because the younger employees at the company refused traveling jobs. I got tired of the traveling and quit. They still called me a few months later to see if I had reconsidered, I hadn't.

A few years later a head hunter got wind of my skills and started looking for jobs for me, I never requested to go to work again, but he just kept calling me with the "perfect" job. If there is a job shortage, I haven't seen it and I'm 62.
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:10 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So... if that would have happened to you in your career field at age 60, do you think you could find another full time job in your old career field at a similar salary to your last job? Do you think my brothers experience not being able to find a job after being laid off at age sixty is common or unusual?
I was just laid off from a job I had for almost 30 years. I'm collecting unemployment now, for the first time in my working career. I'm 63. My company was bought by another and the first thing the new company did was start laying off the older people.

I've been sending my resume out for the past few months, but have had not one bite. So, from my perspective, it seems common for older workers to not be able to find a comparable job and salary.
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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I want to be resume free in the future.
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I don't agree with you. I think burn-out is something more cyclical, throughout a person's career. That's why taking a sabbatical is such a great idea.

But then, once rested and with new ideas...go back and share your knowledge and enthusiasm.
My school district did not offer sabbaticals. It would have cost them too much money.
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