Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Retirement
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-25-2015, 10:45 AM
 
14,221 posts, read 6,911,710 times
Reputation: 6059

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by jghorton View Post
If this is the case, one might wonder if his inability to gain any traction in the Senate or elsewhere over this problem in 'several decades', might speak to his ability (or inability) to gain consensus for this - or any other issue - as President.
It's certainly true that the pharmaceutical industry lobby spend more money than any other lobby group, including Wall Street lobbyists and the military, and big Pharma donate tremendous sums of money to Congressmembers to gain their loyalty. A good start for change is to vote for politicians that is not funded by the corporations, but instead is funded by the people and represents the people.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-25-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
4,023 posts, read 3,784,589 times
Reputation: 6549
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCALMike View Post
It's certainly true that the pharmaceutical industry lobby spend more money than any other lobby group, including Wall Street lobbyists and the military, and big Pharma donate tremendous sums of money to Congressmembers to gain their loyalty. A good start for change is to vote for politicians that is not funded by the corporations, but instead is funded by the people and represents the people.
There are hopeful signs that the tide is starting to turn and that people are becoming more educated about whose best interest their representatives are really looking out for. jghorton's suggestion that he is ineffective is based on a political climate that is changing IMO (whether said climate change is believed in or not )
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-26-2015, 06:43 AM
 
31,672 posts, read 40,933,422 times
Reputation: 14419
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysticaltyger View Post
If we had a true free market health care system, we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, we haven't had anything resembling that in over 70 years. Now we have the worst of both worlds--a mix of Crony Capitalism (which is not capitalism at all) & Socialism, and no one even knows what a free market in health care even looks like any more since all of those people are dead.
Bada Bing!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-26-2015, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
42,754 posts, read 25,988,918 times
Reputation: 33866
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysticaltyger View Post
If we had a true free market health care system, we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, we haven't had anything resembling that in over 70 years. Now we have the worst of both worlds--a mix of Crony Capitalism (which is not capitalism at all) & Socialism, and no one even knows what a free market in health care even looks like any more since all of those people are dead.
How do you think it would work if there was no government oversight or regulation in the delivery of electricity and gas to your home, with only one provider who would have the ability to raise rates as much and as often as they wanted to? Because that is what we are ending up with when it comes to healthcare. Drug companies holding patents for drugs can extort as much as they want from consumers whose lives may depend on those drugs. We've allowed so many mergers with health care providers and insurers that in some parts of the country there is only one option for those services.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-26-2015, 08:04 AM
 
62 posts, read 90,958 times
Reputation: 120
Americans are too reliant on prescription drugs in general. If there wasn't such a high demand for pills that regulate the negative effects of bad lifestyle choices, prices would plummet. If you want to keep your money, do whatever you can to stay healthy because market-driven medical care isn't going away in any of our lifetimes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-26-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
42,754 posts, read 25,988,918 times
Reputation: 33866
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccidentExpress View Post
If there wasn't such a high demand for pills that regulate the negative effects of bad lifestyle choices, prices would plummet.
Not really..
"Matthew Herper, who covers science and medicine for Forbes, explained in an article last week why the free market doesn’t work in the drug industry, either. He used the skyrocketing costs of many cancer drugs to illustrate his point. When the cancer drug Gleevec was launched in 2001, it cost $24,000 a year. Fifteen years later: $90,000. “It happened partly because competition increased and, as new drugs entered the market at higher prices, Novartis raised its price, too,” Herper wrote. “The normal law of supply and demand worked in reverse.”Free market ideology doesn't work for health care | Center for Public Integrity
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-26-2015, 10:20 AM
 
62 posts, read 90,958 times
Reputation: 120
Who said anything about supply? Supply means nothing when corporations collude to keep prices high. Demand is the determining factor and rising cancer rates will continue to ensure a healthy market for companies that produce cancer drugs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Retirement
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top