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Old 11-10-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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I became more liberal as I aged. I also became non-religious after having half a lifetime of religion be my main focus. It happens, thank goodness.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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More liberal as I have aged. More empathy for others while appreciating the breaks I had. Probably also an approaching idea that soon, I'll be in line to get my support.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Aloverton
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Am not going to watch the debate tonight. There won't be anything new. I've seen two and that's enough. (I'll watch the final ones with the Republican versus Democrat.) Liberal neighbors want to watch, just to laugh at the candidates. I don't need a cheap laugh. This is serious stuff about our country's future. Of course Trump is an idiot, but I don't have to be rooting for him to be stupid---he will do that without my cheering him on. I do lovingkindness meditations, so why should I want anyone to fail? On the other hand, no one has won my heart and brain enough to really support them either (although I will vote), so best save my time/energy/money for something uplifting for me or someone else?
I went the other way; if I did meditations related to our politics, they would be scornfulloathing meditations. I can think of maybe one candidate whom I consider would be a sad loss to humanity if s/he jumped off a bridge today. Of the rest, the only question is how high the bridge should be, and whether they should run to do so, or whether it would be okay if they just walked to get there, maybe took a cab.

And because politics only inspire those kinds of rather harsh sentiments in me, I spend most of my time doing something more productive, like disentangling my clients' manuscripts so they can publish their brainchildren and have a chance for them to be successful.

There are debates tonight? I'm with your neighbors in spirit if not ideology; I will be ripe for a good laugh by that time.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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I vote for the person not the political party.
I used to do the same. Over time I learned that what you get is always the party, not the person. The only accurate predictor of how a candidate will vote and otherwise conduct business in office is the R or D beside his/her name.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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I think we have to get our of our ideological (and physical) enclaves and engage widely in society to see what's really going on in the economic strata, with real people. It's easy to barricade ourselves behind closed doors and fear the enemy however the enemy is defined. I see more and more, esp among younger adults who have "made it," an "us vs. them" mentality and the "them" is anyone who is not themselves. One thing for sure is that we ought to think a lot before we allow children to be punished economically because we hold certain beliefs about their parents.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Really surprised how many people are liberal. Do you mostly live in liberal states or have derived wealth from a career in a prestigious liberal state?
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:39 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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I've always been a middle of the road person when it comes to politics. I would probably be labeled as a Blue Dog Democrat. My recent presidential voting has been all over the place; Ford, Reagan, Reagan, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Bush, Obama, Romney. I'm registered as a Democrat so that I can have a vote in the Florida primary and I probably identify more with them. It seems like so many of my Republican friends are so angry all the time. I've become so tired of always hearing that if their dog has fleas, it is the fault of Obama. Get over it already as he won; he will be gone in a little over a year!

Right now I like Kasich, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if Hillary or Bush won.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:45 PM
 
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Really surprised how many people are liberal. Do you mostly live in liberal states or have derived wealth from a career in a prestigious liberal state?
I've lived in Texas for all my adult life. During most of my working years, Democrats ran state government and Democrats like Jim Wright and LLoyd Bentsen represented us in DC.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: None
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Another Mencken quote:

“The state — or, to make matters more concrete, the government — consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can’t get, and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time it is made good by looting ‘A’ to satisfy ‘B’. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advanced auction on stolen goods.”
― H.L. Mencken
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:58 PM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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Really surprised how many people are liberal. Do you mostly live in liberal states or have derived wealth from a career in a prestigious liberal state?
No, we're just really smart.
(that's a joke because of an earlier comment)

I have lived in an area where my county is liberal but my state is not for over 20 years. But we have a very odd situation here (NC) in that we narrowly elect very conservative leadership. Very polarized. Weekly protests at the state capitol.
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