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Old 12-18-2015, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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In Rebel Phase at the moment (and for last 50+ yrs). Don't see it coming to an end, until "The End"
LOL, same here, rebel phase began almost 50 years ago and hasn't ended, nor is it likely to.
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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I was a alcoholic for 20 years, 32 years sober now. AA saved my life.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:30 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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When you read up on their lives back in their 20s, and most of these folks are in their 70s now, you can't help seeing them as a rebel. Bernie Sanders is a perfect case in point.
Can you believe people are actually admitting that they want to vote for a socialist? I have two or three Facebook friends that sing his praises. Didn't they learn anything in civics about communism?
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I was a alcoholic for 20 years, 32 years sober now. AA saved my life.
Not sure how this relates to being a rebel. Are you saying that not drinking at all is a type of rebellion against social norms, since some people have trouble accepting the non-drinker? Or is it that being an alcoholic was the rebellion? In either case you have plenty of company. And in either case congratulations on your sobriety. I had a friend, dead at age 61 some years ago because of his fried liver due to a lifetime of steady and excessive drinking, who absolutely refused to make any efforts to quit. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: NC
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Everyone has a different idea of what constitutes a rebel. Some might just say I was ahead of my time.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:35 AM
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I was a alcoholic for 20 years, 32 years sober now. AA saved my life.
Never had an alcoholic drink in my life except wine samples at a vineyard. But there are other things in my life that are out of control. We all have something that we need to overcome. Life's a journey and I am starting on my 70th year today.

I was taught "Rebellion is the same as witchcraft." There is an order meant for life and if you get out of order it will kick you in the behind. If you are rebelling, you won't mind it though. It will just be part of the experience.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:43 AM
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Everyone has a different idea of what constitutes a rebel. Some might just say I was ahead of my time.
Are you my neighbor? I live in horse country. www.queenscup.org.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I did and I respect it for what it was. I went thru several for different things. One against the bible belt strictures of the area I grew up in. It was so oppressive and I was not even of that background. It fueled a lot of anger, sarcasm, and eventually research into the minds of southern Baptists and evangelicals. Out of that research I developed a tolerance and understanding of their lack of understanding.

I also rebelled against common politics and dabbled in anarchy but which today is called Libertarian-ism, found one of my fave books The Myth of Natural Rights. realized that any extreme feelings that lead to extreme actions harm people and animals. Moderation is the key in all things including diet and alcohol.

Got huge into punk music...too much to go into.

Rebelled against family expectations-had to be done. I have a very close family but sometimes you have to set limits before you can allow people back in.
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I find it an interesting cultural phenomena that several people wrote in negatively right off. We have become the generation of answerers even thought the answering has nothing to do with the question. This is rude. This is one of the negatives the Internet has given us. It sucked me in for a bit but I try and see the big picture now. If you were trained off Yelp or Fb you might think it is ok to just answer even though you hate the question. I ask you to move on, if you are not adding anything why stop here? No one cares about your non answer, your inability to be truly strong by being vulnerable.http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/02/on-being-a-badass.html#
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Default Rebellion is on a continuum, is it not?

So how do we define "rebel phase", exactly, since it varies from mild to severe? In some families one would be considered a rebel for failing to follow the family religion, but that is so mild it hardly merits the title. On the other extreme we need only recall the insanity of the 1970's deadly and murderous political terrorism in which people were killed by fanatics protesting the existing social, political, and economic order. There were groups in Italy, Germany, Japan, and other countries too. Back then and also today I conclude(d) that it was motivated by an irrational and violent overreaction to hatred of their parents and everything their parents stood for. It was entirely destructive and not at all constructive, a true psychosis.

I rebelled against my father's rigidly conformist views by growing my hair longer than he liked when I was in college and a few other things of that sort, but all that is so mild it scarcely merits being called a "rebel phase". Rather, that's the sort of thing teenagers and young adults often do along the road to defining themselves as autonomous individuals.

I never bought into the "destroy-yourself-to-get-back-at-your-parents" idea. Sure, it was a quick and successful way to anger and dishearten them and to prove who was "boss", but it came at the price of not experiencing the joy and gratification of some real accomplishments and real mastery in life, unless that particular path of rebellion was set aside later as erroneous.

I hope these musings are not too disjointed.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I would at one time have considered that the official debut of a "rebel phase," but that's pretty much BS. I was fed up with their incredible immaturity and pettiness about everything, and I deeply resented being an unwilling companion in their very unsatisfactory marriage. But that was essentially very personal family stuff.
That counts as rebellion to me. rebellion is: the action or process of resisting authority, control, or convention.

I think we demean the word rebel sometimes and it is a meaningful, valuable word to describe how things go sometimes to make us who we are and establish core beliefs and actions of the future.

I think it is a wonderful thing to realize "who we are" and become it.
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