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Old 01-02-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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All denominations or just yours? What about Jews, or Muslims, or Buddhists, Pagans????


Yup for a comforting belief in eternal life you merely have to give up rational thought and understanding. Enjoy all you want as long as you don't try to impose your beliefs on others. Oh, I forgot that is not the way religions grow adherents.
This thread isn't about eternal life. It's about meeting other atheists and agnostics.
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Old 01-02-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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We lived in Arkansas for a couple of years in the 70's. We certainly did not fit in. The first week in our new neighborhood we noticed some sort of evacuation. Everyone in the neighborhood got into their cars and left at the same time. Turned out it was just family night at the Baptist church. I am sure it had little or nothing to do with religion but that was the most intellectually and culturally deficient area we ever lived in. And the people moved slooooowly, like almost dead. I also could not understand how so many people could eat grease and become grossly overweight and still live in a hot and humid environment.
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Where in Arkansas did you live? I assume it was not Little Rock.
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Little Rock
I was trying to make sense out of all that, having visited my sister in Little Rock a number of times and having met some of their friends, including church friends. I think the differences in our experience can be explained as follows:

1. You lived there "in the 70's", i.e., some 40 years ago.
2. My sister's church friends are Episcopalian, certainly a mellower breed!
3. My sister lives in an upper middle class neighborhood. (Not saying you didn't, just speculating).

Culturally and educationally, my sister and her husband and their friends are quite similar to what I am used to in Los Angeles; I believe their particular circle of acquaintances does not fit the "southern" stereotype (to the extent that the stereotype still holds true in the larger cities, which tend to be more cosmopolitan even in the south).
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Old 01-02-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: VT; previously MD & NJ
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It is difficult living in the south and not going to church, let alone being an atheist. I am not sure I would have made the move if I had known how conservative the south was regarding religion.
This is why, on other threads about moving in retirement, many of us talk about fitting into the culture of the place you are moving to. You may not care what others do, or you may have a live and let live attitude, but that doesn't mean your neighbors in your new area feel the same way.
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Old 01-02-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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When the JW's came to my house I told them I worshipped Satan and proceeded to bring out my black candles and black robe.
Did they grab theirs from the car trunk and join in? Kidding!
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Old 01-02-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I have kept up with this thread from the beginning and I think I am the only Christian who responded. Obviously you guys are very sensitive about this as you should be. Christians don't have to worry.
You need to re-read the question. It was specifically directed at atheists and/or agonists asking if there were any who were over 65 here.
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:02 PM
 
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I am sure most believers in God never question putting their hand on a bible. But if you are on a trial and are called to the witness stand, you are asked to put your hand on the bible and swear to God that you are telling the truth. When the president was sworn into office, he was asked to put his hand on the bible. No one considers that you might not believe in God. Do I say to the judge, I won't put my hand on the bible because I don't believe in God or the Bible? This is just a given in our society. So atheists are not treated as equals, even though our country says that we are free to believe whatever we want to believe.
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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I was trying to make sense out of all that, having visited my sister in Little Rock a number of times and having met some of their friends, including church friends. I think the differences in our experience can be explained as follows:

1. You lived there "in the 70's", i.e., some 40 years ago.
2. My sister's church friends are Episcopalian, certainly a mellower breed!
3. My sister lives in an upper middle class neighborhood. (Not saying you didn't, just speculating).

Culturally and educationally, my sister and her husband and their friends are quite similar to what I am used to in Los Angeles; I believe their particular circle of acquaintances does not fit the "southern" stereotype (to the extent that the stereotype still holds true in the larger cities, which tend to be more cosmopolitan even in the south).

I lived in "Pleasant Forest" which at the time was a development of new houses, definitely upper middle class. I believe that was 1978-79. I am sure much has changed since then.
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:46 PM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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I, too, wonder about moving to the South with my non-religious beliefs. But maybe if enough of us move there, things will change. Maybe.

I started doubting religion when I was in my teens, became an atheist in college, and started to want to believe again after that. I never have been able to truly believe again so I don't know what I am. Agnostic, I think. I'd like to think that there is some sort of a spirit or higher power but I know it can't be proven, not with our measly human brains anyway.

I despise (if that is strong enough of a word!) the fake evangelistic "religions." My personal experience with my sister who converted and uses religion to mask her hatred and to control others gives me more than enough reason for those feelings. As someone who was so "holy", she brainwashed my poor exhausted mother into denying medical treatment for my dad when he was deathly ill. After he died, followed all too soon by my mother, this same sister was the one who tried to take over their home and their possessions.

I'm not opposed to all religion. I'll go to the Protestant church of the denomination I was brought up here in New England. They are open minded and tolerant. They simply teach love.
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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You seem to be referring to Intelligent Design without using that term. Actually ID was soundly rejected (i.e., "refuted") in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. Evolution completely explains the processes to which you refer.

Mystery solved!
Prof Ken Miller explains in this excellent 2-hour video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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I have kept up with this thread from the beginning and I think I am the only Christian who responded. Obviously you guys are very sensitive about this as you should be. Christians don't have to worry.
Yet you, good "Christian" that you are, are hanging around a thread aimed at agnostics and atheists, and attempting to get in a "dig". It seems like it's you who is "very sensitive" that a bunch of old fogeys are discussing why they aren't believers.
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