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Old 01-19-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: USA
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I think it is absolutely ridiculous and sinful that hearing aids (and glasses) are not covered by all insurance companies, yet Viagra is covered by many plans.


I grew up with a deaf girl. The abuse and ridicule she suffered through middle school and beyond is appalling.


I don't think it's the disability that's not tolerated -- I think it's that so many people seem to have just completely forgotten all manners and common sense in their "me, me, me mentality"
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: West Central Ohio
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I mainly am referring to physical disabilities such as seeing, hearing, walking etc. Depression, drug abuse, mental health etc these disabilities are a different topic. This post isn't to discount them. My daughter works in the medical field and she is the only who told me that one of the topics was that with many disabilities a hearing loss makes people angry instead of sympathetic as they would for someone who, like someone said, a disability you can actually see.

Also there is a stigma attached to having hearing aids. Many believe that hearing aids are only for the very elderly. Also I was always under the impression you had to get the extremely expensive aids that can be incredibly expensive. But I have a pair that is considered in the economy line and I am stunned at how well they make a difference in my life.

I hated to listen to music for so long, especially new songs, if I couldn't read the words at the same time. Now with these hearing aids, music is fun once again.
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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I forget exactly what the ENT calls it, but I have trouble discerning sounds. I cannot understand what people are saying if there is more than just a little background noise or even a little of the wrong kind. I cannot hear nearly as much of the high range as most people. Also I have 24/7 tinnitus. It was actually a blessing when it went 24/7 as now I almost have to think about it to realize how "loud" the ringing is. When it would come and go it bothered me more, as odd as that sounds. I get accused of purposefully tuning out or pretending not to hear a lot. In group settings, if I am getting most of it I don't keep interrupting to make people repeat the parts I don't get if it doesn't seem important. Sometimes there are important details in there that I miss. It is annoying for me also. The ENT said there really isn't an option for correcting this. Other people assume there is and so it is my fault when I can't understand them. Because it is somewhat selective (I can understand most people in most situations) many people tend to assume I am selecting when to tune them out.
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:27 PM
 
Location: West Central Ohio
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I forget exactly what the ENT calls it, but I have trouble discerning sounds. I cannot understand what people are saying if there is more than just a little background noise or even a little of the wrong kind. I cannot hear nearly as much of the high range as most people. Also I have 24/7 tinnitus. It was actually a blessing when it went 24/7 as now I almost have to think about it to realize how "loud" the ringing is. When it would come and go it bothered me more, as odd as that sounds. I get accused of purposefully tuning out or pretending not to hear a lot. In group settings, if I am getting most of it I don't keep interrupting to make people repeat the parts I don't get if it doesn't seem important. Sometimes there are important details in there that I miss. It is annoying for me also. The ENT said there really isn't an option for correcting this. Other people assume there is and so it is my fault when I can't understand them. Because it is somewhat selective (I can understand most people in most situations) many people tend to assume I am selecting when to tune them out.
I am sorry, I really do understand where your coming from.
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:36 PM
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Location: Georgia
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I mainly am referring to physical disabilities such as seeing, hearing, walking etc. Depression, drug abuse, mental health etc these disabilities are a different topic. This post isn't to discount them.
I think, though, that there is a general feeling among many that even this kind of differentiation you seem to be making does discount them, and does so unjustly. Perhaps if you provided a justification for not considering them together, that might help clarify things, but as far as I'm concern, a disability is a disability is a disability - if I am talking about more than one of them, then I am talking about all of them together.

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My daughter works in the medical field and she is the only who told me that...
It makes sense that you would believe your daughter without equivocation, but that's as far as familial trust goes. It isn't typical for people to believe anything based on what a random stranger says, much less something that a random stranger heard second-hand. So while I myself have first-hand experience observing the manner by which society treats the hearing impaired, I cannot stand behind what you're saying without objective evidence, especially in the context that a disability is a disability is a disability.

Sorry, but you've made it really difficult to support what you've posted.
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: The Carolinas
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I am a guy, and like quite a few of us, I have trouble with colors. I'm very color blind. VERY color blind. So much so that even as a young teen, though I did excellent at every military aptitude test, it was determined that because of my color blindness, I couldn't be a pilot, or any other career position in any of the armed forces. In addition, I also couldn't get good jobs with many companies and industries where distinguishing colors was important--and there were many of them at the time: think the phone company and all of their wire colors.


My wife takes great delight in teasing me and embarrassing me in front of others because sometimes I have to quietly ask her what certain colors are. She finds this hilarious. "geez, that taupe! Can't you see that?".


It makes me furious and there seems like nothing I can do will make her stop. I've take her aside and told her that it is a disability that has prevented me from doing a great many things in my life--and I've explained to her as I have above, in great detail. Still it is an object of amusement to her. I've asked her if she's going to start laughing at the blind or deaf next, because they're all disabilities, just, perhaps, to different degrees.


So, no, I don't feel that being hard-of-hearing is the least tolerated disability--color blindness (in my opinion and experience) is not only not tolerated, it's an object of some peoples' great amusement. It's not funny.
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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I think it is absolutely ridiculous and sinful that hearing aids (and glasses) are not covered by all insurance companies, yet Viagra is covered by many plans.
Amen..I've often wondered….how the hell could it be that hearing aids and glasses are NOT covered?

In most cases I say follow the money. But in this case…MAYBE insurance companies don't think they can make money on it.
Because soooo many people need them. I don't know what the answer is. But it's clearly ridiculous that glasses and hearing aids aren't covered. But then again are wheel chairs in most cases? I don't think so. (I'm talking about with regular health insurance you get through your job, or just pay for on your own. NOT Medicare or Medicaid.)
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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I am a guy, and like quite a few of us, I have trouble with colors. I'm very color blind. VERY color blind. So much so that even as a young teen, though I did excellent at every military aptitude test, it was determined that because of my color blindness, I couldn't be a pilot, or any other career position in any of the armed forces. In addition, I also couldn't get good jobs with many companies and industries where distinguishing colors was important--and there were many of them at the time: think the phone company and all of their wire colors.


My wife takes great delight in teasing me and embarrassing me in front of others because sometimes I have to quietly ask her what certain colors are. She finds this hilarious. "geez, that taupe! Can't you see that?".


It makes me furious and there seems like nothing I can do will make her stop. I've take her aside and told her that it is a disability that has prevented me from doing a great many things in my life--and I've explained to her as I have above, in great detail. Still it is an object of amusement to her. I've asked her if she's going to start laughing at the blind or deaf next, because they're all disabilities, just, perhaps, to different degrees.


So, no, I don't feel that being hard-of-hearing is the least tolerated disability--color blindness (in my opinion and experience) is not only not tolerated, it's an object of some peoples' great amusement. It's not funny.
Well, FIRST I would address the issue of why you are married to someone who makes fun of that and so rudely!
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:12 PM
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Location: Georgia
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Another thought just came to mind... as society has become increasingly Internet based (yes, Internet based), those with vision impairments have been progressively less tolerated. Many things that we used to be able to do on the telephone now have been redesigned so that they are relatively easy to do online but relatively difficult to do some other way. For critical things, like health care, there are laws that protect those with vision impairments. For commercial enterprises, there is the profit motive that subjects those with vision impairments to the vagaries of how valuable the commercial enterprise considers the patronage of those with vision impairments. (Status as a public accommodation can be used to force commercial enterprises to improve, but often that's address with seriously inadequate "separate but equal" avenues.) And for anything else, it's hit or miss. Visit this website:

http://wave.webaim.org/report#/http:...l#post42694616

It outlines the difficulties anyone trying to access and participate in this discussion may encounter. The search capability seems to be especially difficult to use by those with vision impairments.
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: West Central Ohio
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I think, though, that there is a general feeling among many that even this kind of differentiation you seem to be making does discount them, and does so unjustly. Perhaps if you provided a justification for not considering them together, that might help clarify things, but as far as I'm concern, a disability is a disability is a disability - if I am talking about more than one of them, then I am talking about all of them together.

It makes sense that you would believe your daughter without equivocation, but that's as far as familial trust goes. It isn't typical for people to believe anything based on what a random stranger says, much less something that a random stranger heard second-hand. So while I myself have first-hand experience observing the manner by which society treats the hearing impaired, I cannot stand behind what you're saying without objective evidence, especially in the context that a disability is a disability is a disability.

Sorry, but you've made it really difficult to support what you've posted.
I am referring to just this post as to why I am making a difference. The others belong in a different post. Feel free to make a different post. I am talking about how people react to people who have a hearing loss. They get "MAD" at you, acting like your ignoring them on purpose.

I personally have quite a few disabilities, I have a birth defect that effects my bones (shoulders, collarbones (lack of) lordosis with a ruptured disk, I have lost a lot of my vision in one eye, my knees dislocate all the time and I have a major hearing loss. Even with my issues I am not talking about anything but how people treat those with hearing losses.

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So, no, I don't feel that being hard-of-hearing is the least tolerated disability--color blindness (in my opinion and experience) is not only not tolerated, it's an object of some peoples' great amusement. It's not funny.
I think you need to make it clear to your wife that the way she treats you is wrong. Sadly you shouldn't treat the one you love like this.
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