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Old 01-29-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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QUOTE=ReachTheBeach;42818064]Like so many things, it's all about increasing or decreasing odds; there are no guarantees. A lot of the books, shows and sites make it sound like anything but their plan will kill you, but even some of the well researched and well known health tips really make modest adjustments to the odds. I am not saying you shouldn't follow some good healthy guidelines, but I would not change my lifestyle and diet to something I didn't enjoy because it decreased the odds of getting some dread disease from 10% to 7% (even though the book/show/site can rightfully claim that not doing X will increase the odds you get Y by almost 50%).[/quote]
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Old 01-29-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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One problem is that 'one size fits all' solutions don't work for all. I like the blood type and genotype diet approaches and hope that one day both mainstream and alternative medicine will recognize different approaches work for different people. Some people are not genetically meant to be vegans, and are harmed by eating that way. I was.
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Old 01-29-2016, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Interesting piece on WebMD about the influence of genes/lifestyle on our health:

Genes vs. Lifestyle: What Matters Most for Health?
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I found this particularly interesting:

Bad Luck of Random Mutations Plays Predominant Role in Cancer, Study Shows - 01/01/2015
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Aliso Viejo, Orange County, CA
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As research goes, there is also this:

Cancer Not Just “Bad Luck”
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articl...st--Bad-Luck-/
A new study refutes one published earlier this year that claimed random mutations were at the root of many tumors.

"After the Science paper was published earlier this year, cancer researcher Yusuf Hannun of Stony Brook University in New York was “startled,” he told Nature. The study was based on stem-cell division rates, and assumed they were independent of external factors. Using several approaches, including interrogating epidemiological data, examining mutation patterns associated with certain cancers, and developing different mathematical models, Hannun and his colleagues found that the evidence supported quite a different conclusion—that almost all cases of cancer are due to environmental exposures."

Personally, I exercise and try to follow a good diet while I let researchers duke it out.

I also follow Dr. Greger's work ( NutritionFacts.org | The Latest in Nutrition Related Research ) since he and his team of volunteer researchers comb through peer-reviewed medical literature, present their findings, and also address inconsistencies.

How Not To Die, by Dr. Michael Greger, is golden.

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Old 01-29-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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"How Not To Die, by Dr. Michael Greger", is golden.

Oh yes...I'm very taken with this book...have learned so much from it...am putting a lot of the findings into practice. Been eating more salads, steamed vegetables, and fruit. Not hard to implement these easy changes for better health.
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Aliso Viejo, Orange County, CA
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"How Not To Die, by Dr. Michael Greger", is golden.

Oh yes...I'm very taken with this book...have learned so much from it...am putting a lot of the findings into practice. Been eating more salads, steamed vegetables, and fruit. Not hard to implement these easy changes for better health.
I'm agree! I'm no cook, and it's amazing how a rice cooker/steamer helps someone like me, who is also quite busy with work, drastically increase my veggie intake.

What's more, even though I like fruit, I found that using the steamer on apples (not one of my favorites), causes me to eat more of them.

I must say that also I like Dr. Gregers' humor and optimism. If you haven't done so, you might enjoy watching some of his YouTube videos.
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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I'm agree! I'm no cook, and it's amazing how a rice cooker/steamer helps someone like me, who is also quite busy with work, drastically increase my veggie intake.

What's more, even though I like fruit, I found that using the steamer on apples (not one of my favorites), causes me to eat more of them.

I must say that also I like Dr. Gregers' humor and optimism. If you haven't done so, you might enjoy watching some of his YouTube videos.
Oh I have...have seen most of his videos..on his mailing list for new postings on his blog. He's pretty amazing with his wit and intelligence...

I use a rice cooker, too, and use the basket insert to steam vegetables/fruit at the same time. Then all I have to do is whip up some sauce and am good to go with a one bowl meal.

Been trying out some new grains..too much brown rice gets old after a while.

Have tried farro and I really like it--kind of chewy and interesting..great topped with steamed or stir-friend veggies.
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Old 01-29-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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Another member of the Dr. Greger fan club! I already was a vegan when I discovered him, but I still learned so much from him---and just having a vegan diet in of itself isn't healthy---it's got to be a whole foods plant based diet.

But Pacific and Little Dolphin---I have to bring this up. Dr. G says he just named the book How Not to Die to get people's attention---he acknowledges that of course everyone must die. But at the beginning of the book he says there is no such thing as dying from old age, just disease. The whole premise of the book is avoiding/curing/minimizing disease through a healthy diet. So---I have to ask: what would a vegan on a healthy diet die from, if not old age or disease?
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Old 01-29-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Aliso Viejo, Orange County, CA
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Another member of the Dr. Greger fan club! I already was a vegan when I discovered him, but I still learned so much from him---and just having a vegan diet in of itself isn't healthy---it's got to be a whole foods plant based diet.

But Pacific and Little Dolphin---I have to bring this up. Dr. G says he just named the book How Not to Die to get people's attention---he acknowledges that of course everyone must die. But at the beginning of the book he says there is no such thing as dying from old age, just disease. The whole premise of the book is avoiding/curing/minimizing disease through a healthy diet. So---I have to ask: what would a vegan on a healthy diet die from, if not old age or disease?
Good point, and here's my take on it. Dr. Greger doesn't, as you well know, say that it is impossible to contract a disease by following a healthy diet; it's just that one wants to put it off as long as possible by minimizing the chances of getting it for as long as one can. Of course, we all eventually succumb to something.

BTW, good to know that there are fellow Greger Fan Club members on CD. Geez, I am constantly learning things from his hard work and studies.
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