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Old 03-09-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I have not been to all 50 states yet. I've been to about 40 of them.

On the other hand I've traveled to about 85 countries on six continents.

I am a different sort of person ... different from many if not most people.

I do not want to live in underpopulated areas. I want to live in not just a big city, but a very big city .... a city with world class symphony orchestras, world class art museums and galleries, outstanding restaurants of every variety of ethnic cuisine, a city with a gorgeous skyline and gleaming glassy skyscrapers, a city of street festivals and film festivals, a city of statues and fountains and historic districts ...
Yes - I would like a place in London too .

One problem with major cities in the US - including Philadelphia - is crime:

Philadelphia PA crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Crime is a problem for everyone. But it's a special problem for seniors. Who are more fragile physically than younger people. It's just as easy to break your hip if a thug makes you fall down when stealing your purse as it is by taking a spill on an icy street. Although the US isn't unique when it comes to crime - it is certainly night and day when comparing most major US cities to a place like London.

In addition - London - unlike the vast majority of cities in the US - has a superb public transportation system that is safe and clean and easy to use - even for seniors. And people even give up their seats to seniors . As I get older - well if I were thinking of moving - a good public transportation system would be important to me - especially in an urban environment. Because the older I get - the less I care to drive. Robyn
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:15 AM
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Location: Cody, WY
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Yes - I would like a place in London too .

One problem with major cities in the US - including Philadelphia - is crime:

Philadelphia PA crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Crime is a problem for everyone. But it's a special problem for seniors. Who are more fragile physically than younger people. It's just as easy to break your hip if a thug makes you fall down when stealing your purse as it is by taking a spill on an icy street. Although the US isn't unique when it comes to crime - it is certainly night and day when comparing most major US cities to a place like London.

In addition - London - unlike the vast majority of cities in the US - has a superb public transportation system that is safe and clean and easy to use - even for seniors. And people even give up their seats to seniors . As I get older - well if I were thinking of moving - a good public transportation system would be important to me - especially in an urban environment. Because the older I get - the less I care to drive. Robyn
London is no longer a safe place. Laws against self-defense as well as laws prohibiting citizens from carrying weapons of any sort are responsible. Demographics have changed as well. The crime rates are even worse than shown as police often don't record crimes.

Look on the link for Violent Crimes Against Person.

In Wyoming teenage girls can and do walk through parks alone at midnight.

Metropolitan Police Service - Crime Figures
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Old 03-09-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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London is no longer a safe place. Laws against self-defense as well as laws prohibiting citizens from carrying weapons of any sort are responsible. Demographics have changed as well. The crime rates are even worse than shown as police often don't record crimes.

Look on the link for Violent Crimes Against Person.

In Wyoming teenage girls can and do walk through parks alone at midnight.

Metropolitan Police Service - Crime Figures

Very true. A few years ago there was a big scandal about how London police failed to record numerous crimes and cooked the books so badly that it was totally unrepresentative of the true crime situation. And now the muslim hordes are loitering around train stations all over Europe so they can accost female riders. In a few more years Europe will be totally unsafe for anyone.
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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You guys may well be right. OTOH - I was in London a few months ago (last September). And felt perfectly safe. Then again - I was basically in pretty good parts of London (center city and nice suburbs to visit friends). And wasn't looking at it as a possible retirement place (retiring out of the country is a no-go for people on Medicare unless those people care to handle everything themselves without any help from Medicare).

Still - I would take most of London over the best parts of Philadelphia these days:

Center City Crime

I think there are lots of places in the US that are perfectly safe - including where I live now (except for some intersections that could use stoplights with left turn arrows). I am not sure why anyone - including teenage girls - would want to walk around in a park at midnight (I'm sound asleep by then) unless that's the only private place for the teenage girls and their boyfriends .

Note that I don't find devout Muslims - like women in full burqas - threatening. Just weird. And we have them here in the JAX metro area these days. I see them shopping at Costco - not a particularly threatening environment except when it comes to the parking lot during the weekends . Robyn
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:42 PM
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Location: Cody, WY
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I wouldn't live in London, Philadelphia, or just about any other big city without a compelling reason. If that were the case I would be very cautious. There are cities that are very safe. Provo, Utah and Zurich, Switzerland immediately come to mind. When my wife was alive we were considering purchasing property in Switzerland, but it wouldn't have been for living full-time.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:36 PM
 
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I lived and worked for 35 years in California and recently retired and moved back to my home state of South Dakota...specifically, Sioux Falls...best kept secret in the US. Shhhh...we don't want a lot of people moving here...just a few....love it here....
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:54 PM
 
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I have been to all 50 states. California, New York and NYC, and Florida have all been several months each summers and winters. I have been to all the top 50 major cities for as much as 1 month at a time.

After trips to Boston, Washington DC, NYC, LA San Fran, San Diego, Seattle, Chicago, Miami, I can feel the stress going right out of me when the plane lands in Omaha or Lincoln. It's an unbelievable good feeling.

Nebraska for me is an Island of sanity in the middle of the country.

The only other states that I would consider for retirement would be South Dakota and Wyoming.
Totally, totally, totally agree. I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for 35 years. I just retired and moved to Sioux Falls..a lot like Lincoln and Omaha...and maybe the best kept secret of all the desirable places to be in the US.

No state income tax, great regional airport where you can get anywhere if you f eel the weather is too cold for parts of the winter....250k urban area...so not a small tiny town...best grocery stores anywhere in the country...farmers markets, too...best medical outside of maybe the Mayo in Rochester...friendliest people on the planet....and the brand new apt I am now renting for $750 a month would cost me 2500 a month or more in the Bay Area..probably 3k....you can get anywhere here in 15 -20 minutes...usually 5-10...way better schools than the SF Bay area..no comparison....I could fill pages...oh, plus I save about 35k a year living here..hell, I could live for 4 months anywhere I want in the "winter" and still be wayyyy ahead financially....

But, please don't move..we're growing a little fast as it is...
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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I wonder if there is data on where people who relocate for retirement actually go? I would imagine the movement would be heavily out of the severe winter belt and into somewhat warmer climates as well as out of high cost of living areas and into lower cost of living areas.

If we could know statistically which states people are actually choosing to move to, then those states would be, by popular opinion, the "top" states to retire to.

So Florida would probably be in the top 10 - at least I would think so. And New York State and California would be in the bottom 10 (?), the latter because of cost of living.

Those of us who have seen a lot of these lists of retirement locations, be they cities or states, may well find them amusing in their inanity, as I do for all the reasons already given by other posters to this thread.
I worked as the Retirement Administrator for a large public agency in CA and the retirees were STREAMING out of Ca. At least CA is getting a lot of immigrants and of course, the welfare types love CA. In other states, they don't have as many benefits.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:51 PM
 
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Still - I would take most of London over the best parts of Philadelphia these days
The Main Line towns to the west of Philly the usual group of gold-plated suburbs with the usual safety you find in those places. Lots of colleges like Bryn Mawr, Villanova, and St Joseph in those burbs and that's where the executives and professional people tend to live. It's a quick train ride in.

It's not where I'd pick but if you can afford the housing in good suburbs and their stiff property taxes, you have all the city attractions and activities but still have the personal safety.
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Old 03-12-2016, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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My first experience of Philadelphia was not a good one.

For some reason I had to go to Philadelphia from DC many years ago so I took the train. It was in the evening, dark when I got there, I walked out of the station toward a cab. In the distance I saw 3 guys running toward me, but I hopped in the cab just as the first one caught up. He reached in to grab me and I slammed to door on his arms. The cab took off and I kept slamming the door on the thug as he somehow hung on, the last time I opened the door to slam it again he fell off on to the street screaming. Probably broke his arms, shoulder, maybe his neck. I don't know. The driver said he wasn't going to stop, I told him fine I wouldn't get out to look if he did.

Never cared much for that city after that experience.
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