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Old 03-17-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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She's not coming back and apparently already made up her mind.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Deep 13
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She's not coming back and apparently already made up her mind.
Does this mean we just have to wait for the "My 55+ Condo Association LIED To Me" thread?
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Old 03-18-2016, 12:33 AM
 
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Progressive doesn't matter. Kids standing there with every single person involved doesn't matter. They will tell you anything to get their multi-billion dollar project rocking. We're trying to protect you. Please, please (everyone) don't fall in love with a plan or real estate or home until you get everything on paper and to a lawyer and understand it.

They will *say* anything. But they will never put it in writing if it isn't true. It's a simple thing to email them (and I mean with clear CCs to several people...developer, salesperson and more so they all know it's out in the open) and say that you want clarification about your 14 year old daughters (put their ages in that email) being welcome to "live there full time" (LIVE there FULL TIME...use those words) with you. If you get no answer, you have their answer. If an answer does come, and it's flaky, that's your red flag.

Surely, this can't hurt to do. It's simple, you'll have it in writing (to several "responsible" people)...and your lawyer may one day love you for it.

Kind of a related sidebar, but this is a link from within a thread back in October:
Province residents win HOA battle - Maricopa Monitor: Local News
At the complex I clean, I had the luxury of telling several prospective owners that pets were not allowed. A number of them had the dogs with them. And then some of the agents would boldly lie to them in front of me...what does a janitor know?

My answer was always I know when the clients start signing contracts and receive their CC&R's and turn to the page about pets and find out you didn't bother to check, or decided to lie, that your sale will fall through, thanks to the fact our state has a three day rescission period.

Don't ever mess with a janitor....��

And now my complex allows pets. Other than ticking off long term residents who didn't want pets ever, there's been no problems.
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Old 03-18-2016, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Northeastern U.S.
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At the complex I clean, I had the luxury of telling several prospective owners that pets were not allowed. A number of them had the dogs with them. And then some of the agents would boldly lie to them in front of me...what does a janitor know?

My answer was always I know when the clients start signing contracts and receive their CC&R's and turn to the page about pets and find out you didn't bother to check, or decided to lie, that your sale will fall through, thanks to the fact our state has a three day rescission period.

Don't ever mess with a janitor....��

And now my complex allows pets. Other than ticking off long term residents who didn't want pets ever, there's been no problems.

I was seriously considering buying a condo elsewhere (while my original condo was under agreement) and visited it a few times to check it out. Since I have a dog; I was determined to find a condo building that would allow him. I not only accepted the word of various residents I saw with dogs; but had I continued with the process, I would not have signed a Purchase & Sale agreement without proof in writing, i.e. the rules of the condominium association, that dogs were allowed, and all rules concerning them. As it turned out, I ended up buying another condo in the same condo complex I have lived in for many years; so my dog and I did not have far to go.

Pet owners should never buy or rent without seeing proof in writing, in the rules or the lease, that their four-legged buddies are allowed in the new home.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Consider what the terms are for renting. If you can rent on a weekly basis your might have a different community than if you have to rent for 6 or 12 months.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Just came across this. 50 Things to Think About Before Buying a Home in The Villages
Might be of interest in picking a community.
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Old 03-19-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Just came across this. 50 Things to Think About Before Buying a Home in The Villages
Might be of interest in picking a community.
That makes for some great reading. Although some of the issues are unique to The Villages - the largest 55+ community in Florida and (one of) the fastest growing cities in the US - many are not. Also - there are some variations on themes when it comes to other communities (like building a house near a lift station or - in our HOA - building near part of the emergency water pumping system - those pumps make a racket). It would be nice if every larger community had something similar that a prospective buyer could read. Robyn
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Old 03-19-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Just came across this. 50 Things to Think About Before Buying a Home in The Villages
Might be of interest in picking a community.

Sounds like something I'd never want to be a part of.
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Old 03-19-2016, 05:45 PM
 
Location: California
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There is nothing wrong with 55+ communities, every neighborhood is only what you make of it. Some people will get involved in the community, others just see it as a house like any other and barely nod to their neighbors as they drive down the street. Both are acceptable.


NEVERTHELESS, I don't get the 10% under 55 but teen kids are ok thing either. How could that be enforced? Sorry everyone, OP brought 2 teens with her so the Joneses can't buy a place with their 3 teens because only 2 more are allowed...It seems like a problem that the sales folk don't want to deal with at this stage when selling is the top priority.
That sort of thing is a never ending issue with local real estate agents who work the area where the 55+ community my parents live in is located. At least once a year someone tries to challenge it because the houses are generally a little smaller and less expensive than the surrounding neighborhoods.
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Old 03-19-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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There is nothing wrong with 55+ communities, every neighborhood is only what you make of it. Some people will get involved in the community, others just see it as a house like any other and barely nod to their neighbors as they drive down the street. Both are acceptable.


NEVERTHELESS, I don't get the 10% under 55 but teen kids are ok thing either. How could that be enforced? Sorry everyone, OP brought 2 teens with her so the Joneses can't buy a place with their 3 teens because only 2 more are allowed...It seems like a problem that the sales folk don't want to deal with at this stage when selling is the top priority.
That sort of thing is a never ending issue with local real estate agents who work the area where the 55+ community my parents live in is located. At least once a year someone tries to challenge it because the houses are generally a little smaller and less expensive than the surrounding neighborhoods.
The exception to the Fair Housing Act allows a community to maintain an anti family requirement if, and only if, 80% of the housing has one occupant over 55.

The standard is that they allow no children under 18 to live there. But that is not in the law so variants are possible. They can allow up to 20% of the homes to be occupied by people who are less than 55. But many of the ones I know allow only surviving spouses. In one long and dramatic example they threw out a 35 year old whose parents had passed on. She tried but could not make them give. In one case of a handicapped 16 year old the HOA refused and in fact kept them from moving in until the kid turned 19.

So the law would allow some kids...but the normal practice does not.
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