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Old 03-23-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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My approaches for avoiding being scammed are as follows:
...While I empathize with people who wind up being scammed, I really have to question whether those folks are in full possession of their mental faculties. A few months ago, a man whom I know was scammed out of several thousand dollars because his grandson had allegedly been arrested in Mexico, and The US Embassy in that country was requesting fees to be paid with Green Dot cash cards from Wal-Mart. Really? Is it really believable that a government agency would ask you to go to Wal-Mart in order to obtain the method of payment?


You are in full possession of your facilities but there are millions of senior citizens who
  • did not grow up in the internet age
  • don't know how to google
  • have never heard of most of these scams
  • want to believe what people tell them

Basically they are ill-equipped to deal with the sophistication of many of the scammers. This is all enabled by the Internet and Globalization and it is not just via the phone but via mail which holds power over seniors. It is going to get worse before it gets better.

I know I have seen it first hand and it is sad. They don't even want to admit they got taken yet they fall for another one 4 months later. I have changed my own parents number, blocked calls and now get transcripts of their voicemails and it is still happening.

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Old 03-23-2016, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I'm retired LE and I can assure you that if you are ever caught with child porn on your computer the consequences are much more severe than a $250 fine. You're looking at years in prison, if not decades.
Yup. My parents had friends who had one son in his forties who still lived with them. Had a job but never seemed to date or have a social life. They said he was shy. They used to buy my daughter beautiful, expensive clothing for her birthday and Christmas because they had no grandchildren of their own.

LE showed up one day with a warrant and took his computer. He not only had child porn on his PC, he was trading/selling with others. Both his parents died while he was in prison.
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Several years ago I took a call from a very friendly sounding guy soliciting money for some police benefit fund. "Do you know any of the fellas down here?" he asked. I just so happen to have lived next door to the sheriff and we were chatting by our mail boxes a few minutes prior. I told the man on th phone I had to tend to something on the stove and quietly sent my child next door to fetch the sheriff who listened to the entire conversation. Sheriff directed me what to ask and somehow he ended up finding these fraudsters. I've heard that some attorney general of some state actually got a bunch of scam calls. Before that he didn't think it was that big a deal.
I get these all the time. It's a popular scam in NJ. One time I answered the phone and the guy on the other end apparently didn't realize I had picked up. I heard him saying something to someone else in ghetto-type language peppered with "mf-ers" so thick it sounded almost comical. Then when I said, "Hello" again, the voice turned magically polite and proper and he identified himself as representing a police benefit organization. I just laughed and said, "Yeah, right" and hung up the phone.
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Cochise county, AZ
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I may have been lucky when, years ago, I got a call about my nephew being in trouble. Well, I didn't fall for it but the call somehow opened a way for them to use my number for long distance calls. Thankfully I was not an only and the phone company credited me for those calls. This was before cell phones, so you know how long ago it was.

The phone company did explain how they did it & I believe they found a way to stop it.

Years later I had a call where the person said they wanted to increase my credit limit, but needed information. I told the guy to mail me the info and I would think about it. He said it was a limited special & only available over the phone. I said, that's too bad but I need you to send me the info. He hung up in frustration, and surprise, I never received anything in the mail. Sigh, oh well, it sounded like too good a deal to be true, lol.

Now I let everything go to email. It's amazing how no one leaves a message.
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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Back in the day this was me. Now that my husband is going back and forth from nursing home to hospital I have to answer all calls from my own area code. It is often a nurse calling from her own phone, which does not show up on caller ID.
My mom is in a nursing home and sometimes the nurses will use their own phones to call. It is annoying because we have the business number programmed into our phones, so they can show up.

I answer all calls because it doesn't bother me to hang up on someone. My sister does not.
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Anybody get a call recently from "IRS" with a robo-call sounding message that you've been sued?

I've had two this year.
I did a few days ago and hung up
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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If everyone paid all their bills on time, or just didn't buy a whole so that they have very few bills at all.....these scams would have no one to prey upon and would fade away.

But alas there exists a market for these scams, hence their existence, and they know who their target audience is.
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Old 03-23-2016, 06:16 PM
 
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I really feel sorry for all the elderly they prey on... disgusting.

Yesterday I had to go to my 90 year old neighbors house... she had me listen to a message that an IRS arrest warrant had been issued and this was a courtesy call... if she called a number they would cancel the warrant upon a good faith payment... this call is the one and only call.

Scum
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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If everyone paid all their bills on time, or just didn't buy a whole so that they have very few bills at all.....these scams would have no one to prey upon and would fade away.

But alas there exists a market for these scams, hence their existence, and they know who their target audience is.
Not necessarily so. Our house is paid for and we pay all bills IN TOTAL every month. Many of these calls are robo calls which means a machine randomly picks numbers. Or they may get lists from medical facilities, or Social Security rolls or even voter registration rolls. The greedy have their ways of finding people to victimize without others trying to sully their reputations with baseless accusations.
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: State of Denial
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My boyfriend's 92-year-old mother is constantly in a tither because of mail she receives. She'll get a letter that says something like "They're trying to take your social security/military pension/Medicare/what-have-you away. If you send a donation of $____ to us, we'll fight for your ss/pension/Medicare!" She's always convinced that she's on the verge of losing her benefits. We have to go through the explanation over and over again that it's just an advertisement and she's NOT losing her benefits.

There has to be a special place in hell for people who prey on the elderly. So many of them live in constant fear that the bottom is going to drop out of their world and things like this doesn't help their composure.
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