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Old 03-31-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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My 90 year old grandmother was so anti-doctor it ended up costing her her life. (
If someone passes at age 90, that is a good long life! Your grandmother had every right to refuse meds at age 90. My mother, grandmother, and grandfather all passed away from the effects of prescription drugs. They didn't need those drugs to save their lives. They ended up costing them their lives.

At ages 68 and 66, I and my wife do not take any (permanent) meds. My wife does take an OTC drug for allergies, at certain times of year. I think common sense should prevail. If you can't live without a drug, or your life would not be worth living without it, take it. But be aware of the side effects.

But if you are taking a "cocktail" of drugs daily as part of the 'Plan 65 Special', think about going over each drug with your physician to see if it can't be eliminated. Many folks just assume, and don't bother to do this. Please be aware that many drugs can kill or shorten your life.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:35 PM
 
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If someone passes at age 90, that is a good long life! Your grandmother had every right to refuse meds at age 90. My mother, grandmother, and grandfather all passed away from the effects of prescription drugs. They didn't need those drugs to save their lives. They ended up costing them their lives.

At ages 68 and 66, I and my wife do not take any (permanent) meds. My wife does take an OTC drug for allergies, at certain times of year. I think common sense should prevail. If you can't live without a drug, or your life would not be worth living without it, take it. But be aware of the side effects.

But if you are taking a "cocktail" of drugs daily as part of the 'Plan 65 Special', think about going over each drug with your physician to see if it can't be eliminated. Many folks just assume, and don't bother to do this. Please be aware that many drugs can kill or shorten your life.
Well said, I couldn't agree more.
When people become very old (80s and up), they often become more susceptible to side effects of drugs that they may have been taking for years without previous problems.

If I live another couple of decades, my one wish is to retain enough mental acuity to assert my right to refuse pharmaceutical and other medical intervention for any reason I deem fit. Failing that, I hope one of my sons will be wise enough to step up in the same manner my husband looks out for his 92 y.o. mom: ruthlessly review every proposed treatment, only allowing interventions that keep her comfortable while resisting those that supposedly would "prolong her life" but cause side effects or short-term suffering.
("Keeping her comfortable" does include antibiotics and vaccines to avoid acute infections.)
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Old 03-31-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Close to an earthquake
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I know we can't always control our fate and those who take thyroid medicine, as several here have shared, know that it's something that is a lifetime thing. My wife is one who does also. And ditto for those who have other conditions that, despite their best efforts, still require a prescription. My heart goes out to them.

But it's fair to say there are some who have learned how to eat their cake and have it too thanks to modern prescription medicine that allows for a cancelling effect of a lifestyle that is glutton-based.

I'm not so big headed to think that one day I might be one who because of fate will need to take a prescription medicine and I hope I have not offended anyone by my initial post. That was not my intention.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:12 PM
 
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But it's fair to say there are some who have learned how to eat their cake and have it too thanks to modern prescription medicine that allows for a cancelling effect of a lifestyle that is glutton-based.
There's a pill for that? I've been depriving myself all these years for nothing?
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I know we can't always control our fate and those who take thyroid medicine, as several here have shared, know that it's something that is a lifetime thing. My wife is one who does also. And ditto for those who have other conditions that, despite their best efforts, still require a prescription. My heart goes out to them.

But it's fair to say there are some who have learned how to eat their cake and have it too thanks to modern prescription medicine that allows for a cancelling effect of a lifestyle that is glutton-based.

I'm not so big headed to think that one day I might be one who because of fate will need to take a prescription medicine and I hope I have not offended anyone by my initial post. That was not my intention.
Getting older means walking a minefield of possibilities. I'm pill free, but it's just luck. There are many more days left in my life and we never know what is going to break. But I will admit, I stay away from the medical community unless something hurts.
81mg aspirin a day. Walk 2 miles. Age 70.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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If someone passes at age 90, that is a good long life! Your grandmother had every right to refuse meds at age 90. My mother, grandmother, and grandfather all passed away from the effects of prescription drugs. They didn't need those drugs to save their lives. They ended up costing them their lives.

At ages 68 and 66, I and my wife do not take any (permanent) meds. My wife does take an OTC drug for allergies, at certain times of year. I think common sense should prevail. If you can't live without a drug, or your life would not be worth living without it, take it. But be aware of the side effects.

But if you are taking a "cocktail" of drugs daily as part of the 'Plan 65 Special', think about going over each drug with your physician to see if it can't be eliminated. Many folks just assume, and don't bother to do this. Please be aware that many drugs can kill or shorten your life.
Part of the problem is that every doctor/specialist wants to add medication and no one ever takes one away! You just keep accumulating and it can be difficult to get off the stuff because then they're afraid what will happen. Be sure you need it in the first place before agreeing to it and know the possible side effects.
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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My mom is 92 and has very loose bowel movements. Wonder if this is a senior thing?

She is in a nursing home, so gets her medication on schedule.

It really saved her cuz she was doing a bad job of taking care of herself.
No - chronic (often uncomfortable) constipation would be more common. If there aren't any continence problems - and she is comfortable - I wouldn't worry about it. Robyn
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:20 AM
 
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With all the male vitamin-like prescription pills that begin with the letters C, L and V, I suppose it's harder these days for many fellas to claim being prescription medicine free. And in California, you've got this prescription medicinal marijuana thing going that is "medicating" an amazing number of "sick" individuals.

Lots of people taking their "pills".
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:24 AM
 
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People don't live longer because they are "pill free" Being "pill-free" is simply an indication of having a superior body and superior genetics that make you a statistical abnormality. The vast majority of us need medication for something long before we are even seventy years old. I think an argument can be made that some medications are over prescribed. For the most part though, they are proven to prevent major diseases and health problems that would otherwise shorten our longevity. High blood pressure medicine and anti-cholesterol drugs are two important advances that are saving thousands of lives.

I remember some differences from my childhood that stand out. You used to hear far more often of deaths from heart attacks and strokes (particularly men in the 50-70 year range) than you do today. I used to see far more people hobbling around on canes than I do today. This is largely a function of the ability to do total hip and knee surgery on older people.

The reality is that we can control some of our destiny by eating properly, exercising, not smoking, and taking certain medications. There are always going to be a few people though who break most of the rules and still manage to live to be very old. Winston Churchill broke every rule in the book and still lived past ninety years of age. He smoked, he drank, he was overweight, and he had a high stress job as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. A few people just seem to have genetics that allow them to survive what most others cannot. That is what accounts for the existence of centenarians.
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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Every year my cardiologist says the same thing to me... "I could throw half a dozen meds at you..." then he waits for the same response from me, "And I'd go home, research the hell out of them, and most likely throw them in the trash." Then he smiles knowingly. I see him for maintenance and that's how I want to keep it. He tells me there's two kinds of patients, the patient who won't leave without a fistful of prescriptions and me who will think long and hard before putting a chemical in my body. For aches or pains, I cut a regular strength advil in half if I need it.
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