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Old 04-16-2016, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Speak for yourself. I plan on living till I'm 100. Of course, given that will be the middle of this century, could be you're right. That may finally be the time millennials finally get into their stride.
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:23 AM
 
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FWIW - my PCP - in her 40's - is a GenX doctor with GenZ kids. She says her kids always stay 2 steps ahead of her in terms of using (phone) apps she hasn't mastered yet (like Snapchat). As a way to "stay private". Back when I was a kid - it was very easy to stay private - because there was no social media. Robyn
I'm pretty sure she was just making small talk, Robyn55.

Give me a break, phone apps, Snapchat?

It's not like she's asking about learning HTML.

It's not because it's difficult in any way, it's because her kids are spending all day long doing it and within their social circles AND pop cultural figures who now use it. Heck even some political shows have it now. Like anything else.

I'm pretty sure it's contraindicated for a doctor or lawyer to be using Snapchat with their patients/clients, whereas for someone in my business, a dog walker, it would be considered added value.

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Old 04-16-2016, 06:42 AM
 
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BTW - I went to Best Buy today to buy something. Many/most of our local Best Buy employees are working full time/near full time at Best Buy while attending a local public university - the University of North Florida (they have to work full time to pay their way through school). They don't earn high hourly wages and don't get commissions. Yet they are unfailingly polite - and extremely knowledgeable and helpful. Although they do get on their phones. Our sales person got on hers today to see if she could get a better "price match" than I had found on my own before I went to the store .

A lot of UNF students work as servers in local restaurants too. And they are the same as the Best Buy employees. My husband and I can't understand how these kids hold down full time jobs while trying to get their degrees (as a practical matter - most can't get their degrees in 4 years doing this - they take 5-6 years - there are only so many hours in a day).

I see the same in our main grocery store - Publix. Where many local kids start working as baggers at age 14-15. And keep working at Publix in college. Most toil anonymously. But some get their 15 minutes of fame :

Publix bag boy Mike McNeely grateful for spotlight after Gators' fake field goal - Orlando Sentinel

I am sure there are some younger people who are lazy - just like there are some older people who are lazy. But I sure wouldn't generalize on the basis of my day-to-day experiences with younger people - which are generally positive.

I think a lot of this has to do with corporate culture and management. For example - Publix employees here as a whole are consistently better overall than Winn Dixie employees - even though they're drawing from the same labor pool. Robyn
Well the same goes for college cultures. Google country club colleges.

Best Buy does College Recruiting. They also have a career path with something called a corporate campus with a fitness facility, child care center, bank, cafeteria, dry cleaning service, coffee shop. But that's a different point. Yes they promote a culture.

LOL they even advertise a slogan "YOU CAN BE YOURSELF HERE" because sadly, special snowflakes need safe spaces or something now.

Their titles are called "Specialists".

I have to say I bought a REFRIGERATOR at Best Buy (LOL) and the guy was a mature adult, extremely knowledgeable and went to ALOT Of trouble for me. Beginning to end. He commutes rather FAR to our local store, too. He told me he loves working there. The installers were just as good and I still love the fridge which happened to be one that wasn't easy to find elsewhere.

Among a full range of benefit "options" they say, Best Buy offers Tuition Assistance for full time employees which is 32 hrs.

Indian River State College, now a four year school, is noted for it's very affordable tuition - about 40% less than the per credit cost at Florida public universities. They work hard to keep the admin costs and excessive "country club college" and "grant seeking" DOWN to do so. There is only one level between the students and the President.

So say, 60 Credit hrs at $103.00 per = $6180.

Best Buy contributes $3,500 max per year.

It's all about CHOICES. In education AND careers.

Students and their families love the PERKS of the overpriced country club colleges.

https://corporate.bestbuy.com/wp-con...licy-final.pdf

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Old 04-16-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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OMG! Why did I not think of that? I guess I removed my tin foil hat a little too soon.
I can understand why you're in favor of a larger nanny state government even though you're a lawyer and talk about constitutional law. I've been reading your posts for years even this latest one:

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I'm not there yet, but I did receive an earned income tax credit this year. That was a shock!

There is no way I'd be able to live on my expected benefit - approximately $1200/month - unless I moved in with a child, rented out half my home or moved into subsidized housing. Medical expenses alone would eat up more one-third of my monthly check. The federal poverty level is $990/month for a single person. I admit that if I had less than $7,280 in resources, I would be able to get help paying my Medicare Part B premiums, but still...I like to eat, turn on the heat or a/c, visit friends and family. There is no room for stress in my old age.
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs, right?
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Old 04-16-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I can understand why you're in favor of a larger nanny state government even though you're a lawyer and talk about constitutional law. I've been reading your posts for years even this latest one:

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs, right?
Oh, sweetie. My social security benefit will be average, but my IRA is very substantial. I did not say I had no income taxes, I said I received an earned income credit, i.e., "earned income" being the key term.

My earned income is from part time work. Do not confuse getting an unexpected earned income credit of $164 with my gross income and final tax bill.

BTW, I was also able to significantly reduce my AGI by taking a hefty self employed health insurance deduction, which includes both long term care and medical insurance premiums. $$$$ Thank you, Republicans. LOL
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Overall, I'm happy with life. I wish all of those who are similarly blessed felt the same.
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Old 04-16-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Well the same goes for college cultures. Google country club colleges.

Best Buy does College Recruiting. They also have a career path with something called a corporate campus with a fitness facility, child care center, bank, cafeteria, dry cleaning service, coffee shop. But that's a different point. Yes they promote a culture.

LOL they even advertise a slogan "YOU CAN BE YOURSELF HERE" because sadly, special snowflakes need safe spaces or something now.

Their titles are called "Specialists".

I have to say I bought a REFRIGERATOR at Best Buy (LOL) and the guy was a mature adult, extremely knowledgeable and went to ALOT Of trouble for me. Beginning to end. He commutes rather FAR to our local store, too. He told me he loves working there. The installers were just as good and I still love the fridge which happened to be one that wasn't easy to find elsewhere.

Among a full range of benefit "options" they say, Best Buy offers Tuition Assistance for full time employees which is 32 hrs.

Indian River State College, now a four year school, is noted for it's very affordable tuition - about 40% less than the per credit cost at Florida public universities. They work hard to keep the admin costs and excessive "country club college" and "grant seeking" DOWN to do so. There is only one level between the students and the President.

So say, 60 Credit hrs at $103.00 per = $6180.

Best Buy contributes $3,500 max per year.

It's all about CHOICES. In education AND careers.

Students and their families love the PERKS of the overpriced country club colleges.

https://corporate.bestbuy.com/wp-con...licy-final.pdf
Well that is interesting information. I knew Best Buy had been doing something right in recent years (it looked like a zombie going the way of Circuit City just a few years back) - because my shopping experiences there the last year or two have been very pleasant.

The only thing you have to be a little careful of when it comes to Best Buy is its on-line ad prices are often lower than its store prices (you can probably ask a sales person to check the on-line ads - but I always check them before I go to the store). Best Buy will also match prices from places like Amazon - so it's good to check those too. When it came to the thing I bought - a photo printer - the store price was $89 - and I wound up buying it for $68 . Now that Amazon is charging sales tax and I can get price-matching at Best Buy (and Best Buy offers free shipping on most items too) - I'm buying a lot more at Best Buy than I used to buy. Robyn
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Old 04-16-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I'm pretty sure she was just making small talk, Robyn55.

Give me a break, phone apps, Snapchat?

It's not like she's asking about learning HTML.

It's not because it's difficult in any way, it's because her kids are spending all day long doing it and within their social circles AND pop cultural figures who now use it. Heck even some political shows have it now. Like anything else.

I'm pretty sure it's contraindicated for a doctor or lawyer to be using Snapchat with their patients/clients, whereas for someone in my business, a dog walker, it would be considered added value.
My doctor is 40ish. She has a busy practice (even with only 150 patients) - 3 teenage kids - and a disabled husband. I am glad that she spends more of whatever free time she has keeping on top of new medical things than the latest most "au courant" app.

FWIW - I can and do communicate with my doctor by email (phone too). But - with HIPAA stuff these days - I have to sign an email waiver first (acknowledging that email isn't a totally secure form of communication and similar). Robyn
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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What kind of work/job are you talking about? Just in general.

There are young people who are questioning the workhouse hours demanded in some professions. Like investment banking.

Millennial Employees Confound Big Banks - WSJ

And I can't say I blame them. Because the way things used to work - if you killed yourself for X years - you were guaranteed a partnership and a huge income for the rest of of your life. Today - there is no such guarantee. My generation was the first in the legal profession to experience that kind of thing. Many classmates who toiled for 7-8 years at Wall Street law firms - working 100+ hours a week - expecting to make partner (which had been the norm) - didn't make partner. And were unceremoniously kicked out on the street or offered dead-end non-partnership jobs at the end of those 7-8 years.

People in other professions/lines of work experienced the same or similar. The worst IMO is people who got "downsized" when they were in their 50's or so.

I think too many younger people have seen this happen to older relatives/friends/friends of relatives. Why work hard if hard work isn't rewarded? Ideally - a motivated person would try to find a job where hard work *is* rewarded. But that isn't always possible in today's employment environment. Robyn
Engineering.... large medical company.


I'm not saying kill yourself, but can't it be expected that they at least sit there and do nothing for the required 40 hours that they are getting paid for?


That "why work hard" attitude is the wrong one to have. I'm not saying work long ridiculous hours......
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Old 04-23-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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I constantly hear how baby boomers lack "skills" which usually point to lack of skills based around computer use.

I find the assertion totally nuts.

Baby boomers invented the technology the cry baby generation, aka millennials, rely on. Hit to the cry babies; I was using a computer before you were born.

Sometimes it gets tiresome listing to the whine.

Gen Y aren't better at technology they're better at getting distracted.
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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How did Gen X get left out of this?

Gotta laugh at baby boomers who have co-opted the rhetoric of their depression era parents when the truth is they had it easier than any generation before or since. I'd take cheap education and stable jobs with with good benefits over a cell phone and 500 TV channels any day. Quality of life isn't about consumer goods, it's about housing, education, and health care first and foremost.
LOL, I'm tail end baby boomer, some call us the jones. Every generation had things to deal with. Our generation had to deal with sky high interest rates and long gas lines. The generation before us had to deal with the Vietnam war. The generation after us, well I'm not sure, it seemed the things were pretty good. This generation are a bunch of whiners who had helicopter parents who tried to give them everything they wanted. For some reason their parents forgot to tell them that one day they'll have to earn the money to pay for what they want.

My point is every generation has crap to deal with. Get over it.
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