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Old 04-15-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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There is a false assumption in this thread. Time doesn't cause a car to break down. The average car is built to last about 200k miles with regular maintenance.
Not exactly true, time does take its toll. Even if a car is garaged and very lightly driven, after a number of years rubber and plastic parts get brittle, dried out, and cracked. Tires should never be used beyond age 6 to 10 years regardless of remaining tread thickness. Gaskets and seals are prone to leaking due to brittleness and cracking.
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Old 04-15-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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Not exactly true, time does take its toll. Even if a car is garaged and very lightly driven, after a number of years rubber and plastic parts get brittle, dried out, and cracked. Tires should never be used beyond age 6 to 10 years regardless of remaining tread thickness. Gaskets and seals are prone to leaking due to brittleness and cracking.
The people in this thread are too afraid to even keep a car for 10 years to do a MINOR repair like having the tires changed. Gaskets would take even longer to break down. Even then, regular maintenance would alleviate most of this. Like I said, it's their money to waste.
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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Not exactly true, time does take its toll. Even if a car is garaged and very lightly driven, after a number of years rubber and plastic parts get brittle, dried out, and cracked. Tires should never be used beyond age 6 to 10 years regardless of remaining tread thickness. Gaskets and seals are prone to leaking due to brittleness and cracking.
Great point Elliott. Not a lot of folks think about tire age. My cars never wear their shoes longer than 2 years but that is because I drive 25k per year.
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Old 04-15-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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Oh we totally get this and even those of us critical of the lease idea agree that for you this is the right move. Hell if I could afford it I'd do the same thing. Good luck. What kind of car are you considering?
We are just starting to consider car selection. We will look at Subaru Impreza 2.0i, Toyota Avalon, Honda Accord LXS, Hyundai Sonata and Hyundai Elantra, in no particular order.

Do you have opinions on any of these?
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Old 04-15-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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Great point Elliott. Not a lot of folks think about tire age. My cars never wear their shoes longer than 2 years but that is because I drive 25k per year.
I learned my lesson on that with my utility trailer. The tires rotted and one blew out and I doubt they had 5,000 miles on them. But they were over 10 years old and had been outside (under a deck in the shade when parked, but outside just the same) the whole time. They kept pressure amazingly well, which is one factor that fooled me into thinking they were still in good shape.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:00 PM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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We are just starting to consider car selection. We will look at Subaru Impreza 2.0i, Toyota Avalon, Honda Accord LXS, Hyundai Sonata and Hyundai Elantra, in no particular order.

Do you have opinions on any of these?
My dad and his wife have 2 Avalons. I thought they were more expensive than the other cars on your list. I am surprised to see the Avalon on this list; it is a ringer among cars of this class IMO but I think you may find it is the highest priced car on your list.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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My dad and his wife have 2 Avalons. I thought they were more expensive than the other cars on your list. I am surprised to see the Avalon on this list; it is a ringer among cars of this class IMO but I think you may find it is the highest priced car on your list.
Didn't know that. 2 friends have them and both very happy, so I planned to look at it. My price is flexible to some extent.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:55 PM
 
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There is a false assumption in this thread. Time doesn't cause a car to break down. The average car is built to last about 200k miles with regular maintenance.

That is not true. When my grandfather died, he left us an eight year old car with 10k miles on it. It is what my brother and I always refer to as a "garage queen." Before he could use it as his daily drive, he had to replace:

1) All four dry-rotted tires.
2) All rubber hoses and belts as all were showing signs of cracking.
3) Replace and flush all fluids including the transmission.
4) replace several other gaskets.

As he managed a auto repair shop, he could do much of the work himself. However, if not, it would have been a lot of money.

Age and mileage can both take its toll on vehicles, especially if the vehicle is not garages.
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Old 04-15-2016, 10:10 PM
 
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I have a history of keeping cars for a long time. Had a "plain Jane" 1988 Volvo 240DL and kept it for over 300,000 miles and gave it to a charity thinking they would sell it for cash but actually they kept if for a while and used if for an operating vehicle. Darn I wish I still had that car.

Spent money for sure for maintenance all done at a dealer which is more expensive. Every time I did the math about whether to keep or dispose, I always went with keep. Even though maintenance costs are always there, it always seemed less to me than buying a new car, even paying cash.

I think the trick to keeping an old car is to invest in maintenance as opposed to a repair. In my mind, a repair is what you incur when you don't do the maintenance.

Had a Honda Accord (I've owned several) that got to almost 260,000 miles before son totaled it. Now driving a Honda Accord that I bought from the estate of a deceased client. Got it at 83,000 miles and now have about 135,000 miles with, hopefully, another 115,000 miles minimum to go.

Your mileage may vary.
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