I'd thought about posting this but always decided against. I think reading West Coasters thread changed my mind. Just my muddled thoughts on how the considerations of life expectancy play in my retirement decision.
Most mornings I skim through the CNN website. I run into health "articles" over and over and over on the same topics:
The alone die early
The fat die early
The sedentary die early
I smoked for 26 years (so not only will I die earlier but many people seem to think I deserve to die)
I live in Ohio and will probably move to MI so I'm going to die earlier than everyone else in the US!
USA Life Expectancy White American Female
(Seriously if you want to live long move to Wash DC or Japan)
Of course on the plus side I'm not poor and live in the south.
But really at this point by the time I finish reading my morning news I feel surprised to be alive,
and feeling quite scared. These articles didn'tmake me decide to retire but they certainly have provided support for or justification for retiring at 60.
Rhere is the concern that you'll outlive your money. There is the concern that you'll work too long and never get to enjoy retirement.
People with less money worry more about the outlive part and tend to work longer. Makes easy sense.
But whenever someone comes along and says, I'm going to retire even if I'm the poorer side then they have weighted the concern about not living long enough to enjoyment retirement higher.
A gutsy, scary and potentially devastating move that often brings out a lot of naysayers. I guess the people who went the other way aren't around to tell us about it.
The average US life span, is what almost 79, higher for women. Of course there is that whole thing with reaching 65. Seems like if you make it through your 60's your shot at making it into your 80s or late 80s goes up. The longer you live, the longer you live.
This from the SS website:
A man
reaching age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 84.3.
A woman
turning age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 86.6.
And those are just averages. About one out of every four 65-year-olds today will live past age 90, and one out of 10 will live past age 95.
So 3 out of 4 65 year olds wont make it past 90
And of course lots of people seem to die in their early 60s. Another thing CNN brings to me with my morning coffee is the weekly death of someone famous and often wealthy) in their 60s.
This website
Lifespan Calculator – Test Your Life Expectancy || NM
said I would live till 87 even though I'm fat and smoked for 25 yrs which makes no sense to me. Social Security says 86 without asking any health questions.
I know many people here assume the best/worse case scenario so you can affordthat nursing home and I realize you can't know when you are going to die. However it seems like ignoring these studies about longevity and at least thinking about them as applied to your own history is ignoring a lot of research.
Should I take 7 years off for being alone and another 7 for being obese and sedentary? That brings me down to roughly 72. Bump it up for long living parents....maybe 75? Hopefully will be less sedentary after retirement...77? How about the previous smoking history? Back to 75? No real health problems right now other than obesity so back to 77?
So anyway, I'm with West Coaster. My parents lived long but our lives have been completely different and I don't expect to live as long as they did (88 and 91). I'm going out at 60 even though many would recommend against. I'm feeling less competent at work and have not been happy in this location (I've put on 30 lbs in the 9 yrs I've lived here). So I'm retiring from something and not to anything which is exactly what you aren't supposed to do. I have not figured out my money plan to anyones idea of a real plan. But I have looked at it and thought about it and money wise I should be...ok. I won't have the retirement that many do of travel and many other choices. But I have enough (unless the market tanks or my new worry of inflation, not near term but its going to happen some day)
My decision which I made last year has only been reinforced by the recent discovery of a spot on my lung. Most are apparently nothing but you have to wait 6 months for another CT scan to see. If its something I should have gone out at my minimum retirement age of 56. If its nothing I'm taking it as a sign, get out and enjoy while you can.
US Life Expectancy
Obesity could 'rob you' of 20 years of health - Health News - NHS Choices
Being Overweight Shortens Life Span
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0...ngs-toll/?_r=0
Could Loneliness Shorten a Life?
According to that article even though people are happy alone it doesn't matter.
"That doesn't mean that folks who happily live alone are completely off the hook, however. In fact, the study found that people who lived alone had a 32 percent higher risk of an earlier death than those who lived with another person."
Social isolation, loneliness, and all-cause mortality in older men and women
The above is a academic research article with lots o statistics and hard to understand. But basically the socially isolated (vs. lonely) die younger.
The results show people with strong social relationships increased their odds of survival over a certain time period by 50 percent, the researchers say. That's on par with ceasing smoking, and nearly twice as beneficial as physical activity in terms of decreasing your odds of dying early.
Want to Live Longer? Get Some Friends
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...and-death.html