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Old 11-03-2016, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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It's not the type of tobacco, it is combustion that causes the health hazards: When smoking Indian cigarettes you will inhale carbon monoxide, particulate matter, carcinogenic polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, and toxic nitrosamines just as you would with any commercial cigarette. I have attended a large number of autopsies (I worked in LE & did forensic work) and if you ever actually saw the lungs of a smoker I can guarantee you that you would figure out some way to quit. In case you are interested, here are some photos: 5 Smoker's Lungs Pictures That Will Shock You | New Health Advisor
You forget that man is a gambler at heart! You can show these photo's to teenagers, and what may they say?

"I had this Uncle who smoked for 50 years and he never developed any symptoms, so I'll take my chances!"

And God forbid they should have met my Father who smoked for 50 years and never had any respiratory problems until he died at age 96 of Alzheimer's!

And some smart-aleck teenager might show you photo's of deadly car crashes, mentioning those who simply couldn't give up that dangerous habit of driving/owning a car!

And go on to show you photo's of those who never smoked, the man with Lou Gehrig's disease, those with AIDS, those who suffered a paralytic stroke, those caught up in natural disasters, etc.

I've met up with enough people, who quit smoking, took it up again, quit, resumed the habit, a wife/husband who quit, decided to resume the habit, this should be part of your retirement planning, considering the if's to where you plan to retire, particularly in a colder region of the country.

And never suggest quitting, no matter what the addiction. Best: cut down, cut down, cut down! If you can get a smoker to cut down from 2 packs to 1 pack, a victory has been scored!

My Aunt, mentioned in a previous post, has emphysema, and at 80, she quit for a year, thinking her lung capacity would return, and she felt no better. Sorry! The irreversible damage has been done! And? She's back smoking!
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Old 11-03-2016, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Heavens, you listing all of this, above, and then seeing it should tell you volumes about yourself.
'Ya know those posts you put up, then regret and can't change later?. Well that would have been one of those posts. Just got frustrated when I was told that my position was not clear.

Like the recent post that claimed I never acknowledge the correlation between smoking and other health issues. I did acknowledge this, several times. I could supply the quotes but I have learned my lesson.
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Old 11-03-2016, 06:46 AM
 
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Really it is no worse than those that believe the opposite.

It is what it is. Obviously no one is going to change anyone else's mind.

I just hope that people might just question things instead of blindly believing. It really helps to dig and find out where some of these health organizations get their funding.


It's not his opinion, couldn't care less about that, it's the incessant persistance. Like force feeding his view and then boohooing endlessly about not being understood but not letting it go.
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Old 11-03-2016, 06:48 AM
 
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This whole thread has morphed into a "he said/she said". Hardly productive.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Eastern UP of Michigan
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This whole thread has morphed into a "he said/she said". Hardly productive.


Maybe everyone should be smoking something different.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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Maybe everyone should be smoking something different.


You got it. Works for me.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Often forgotten, tobacco is an herb, with medicinal properties. The safest way to consume tobacco is pipe smoking, followed by cigars, and the worst of the worst, is store-bought cigarettes. It's also serves as an appetite suppressant.

The Native Americans of South America would make a tea out of it and drink the tobacco, which is far safer than smoking store-bought cigarettes.

I use Indian tobacco with no chemicals, and I use the empty filter tubes to make my cigarettes, been doing it for 14 years. Would never consider buying a store-bought cigarette!

We owe our freedom from the British to tobacco, as it was a lifesaver for our country. When Benjamin Franklin went to France to negotiate a loan for help drive the British out, the banks wanted 5 million pounds of tobacco in payment, as the French were already heavily addicted to tobacco.

Thus, a true Patriot of this country uses tobacco in some form or another, no?

I sometimes have to laugh about this but it was MY ancestor who introduced tobacco to VA 'way back when'. Good ol' John Rolf, my 12th great grandfather. I'm not sure he'd be proud of what the market has become today or the illnesses generated by smoking but if he contributed to our freedom with it then hooray for him!
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