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Old 10-29-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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Many sites list the anti-smoking laws of states. Even Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States
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Old 10-29-2016, 07:50 AM
 
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Yeah it's idiotic to allow smokers right in front of a building doorway. That is way too intrusive.
Yes but it becomes cultural and in some ways a function of how many transplants there are
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Old 10-29-2016, 08:10 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I am fascinated at this. Here in MD smoking in bars/restaurants has been banned for so long it just feels like the norm. And since smokers are far outnumbered by non-smokers most of us are happy. But it appears as if smoking gamblers outnumber non-smokers in Las Vegas and that is surprising.
There were so many smokers in Las Vegas that I considered that people moved there just so they could smoke.

Arizona has a lot too that hang out in front of restaurants waiting for their table and smoke. Then when they come inside to dine smell like ashtrays
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Old 10-29-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Never have and never will.
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Old 10-29-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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Reading the comments I remember back in high school in the 60's when we had a smoking pit in school, but only juniors and seniors could smoke, along with the teachers.
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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Just had a guy walking along the shore line smoking and could Smell it 100 feet away
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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MN seems to have had success with it's program. According to the Department of Health since the initiative was begun the percentage of smokers has dropped from about 22% to about 14 %. Either that or they are so afraid of the tobacco user shamers than a percent of the population is lying.


It is an addiction, you know. Hard to eliminate by just telling someone to knock it off. Probably our old smokers are dying off. Anyone else hardly dares to admit it if for no other reason than insurance premiums.


I do think it's abominable the treatment that is tolerated toward open tobacco users in the state. If they are addicted to the substance they seem to be one of the few exceptions to the Vulnerable Adult Act.


So, now that we have made such progress let's start driving the overeaters and alcoholics underground. Those two groups more than make up for the health care costs of insured smokers. Actually the overweight carry the largest cost of health care.


A comment about, "Yeah, but drinkers don't directly effect me." Look up the statistics for murder, violent crime, lost work productivity, accidents, effects on family and co-workers. In MN the annual cost per man, woman and child of irresponsible drinking was $900 some years ago and the statistics doubled in one several year span from four to eight billion.


The health department has recently released the new biennial report and claims alcoholism rates are dropping in MN. But the number of methamphetamine users is on the rise. (Those folks make great lounge and dining companions.)


All that rant to say that MN is a good place to live if you don't like to breathe second-hand smoke.
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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I work with a guy who is 66, a good 70lbs overweight, hypertension, diabetic, long time smoker. This past year he has had 2 bouts of pneumonia and one bout of bronchitis. He's disgusting. hacking, snorting, coughing non stop.
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I get it and I feel the same way about being around smoke. And as a respiratory therapist no doubt you saw the worst side of smoking. I get that too. But that's like working in the emergency room, seeing all the car crash victims, and having a different opinion of the dangers of driving than the rest of us. Face it, your view is slanted by your work experience. A bar guy or construction worker will argue that they see smokers who live long lives all the time.


Again I do not expect to win this debate and I am not in any way trying to say the dangers of smoking are not very real. But I completely believe the belief that if you smoke it will kill you simply is not true. There are old people still smoking all over the place.
My FIL is almost 93, smokes like a chimney and is still going strong. Every kind of illness gets blamed on cigarettes these days.
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Old 10-29-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I work with a guy who is 66, a good 70lbs overweight, hypertension, diabetic, long time smoker. This past year he has had 2 bouts of pneumonia and one bout of bronchitis. He's disgusting. hacking, snorting, coughing non stop.
So he offends you on a bunch of different levels.
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