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Old 11-07-2016, 04:54 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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We have had a house in The Lakes area of Las Vegas for around 5 years. We live and work in So Cal right now but plan on retiring there. We have spent a lot of time there over the years mainly the summer. We enjoy the heat. Everything is air conditioned anyway house, car, restaurants stores etc. so who cares? Also dry heat vs humidity. I can't wait to get out of Ca!!! The traffic and overcrowding is unbearable and gets worse every year. Rush hour on the freeways at 2 pm in the afternoon. Never used to be that way.

Most of the negative posts about Las Vegas are true for every city in the U.S. Rush hour traffic is at a normal time around 5 pm on the freeways. The strip is the only place there is always traffic. We never even go to the strip. There is no reason.
Everything is very convenient in the housing areas as far as stores, restaurants etc. I have never seen the traffic bad on surface streets. I like that you can always find things to do 24 hours which may be especially nice when you retire.

I never knew that there was a concern about earthquakes in Las Vegas. As far as insurance we do not even carry it on our house in Ca. The damage would rarely exceed the deductible. A lot depends on where you live and the construction of your house. I know that they have them and there are faults but I still feel safer in Las Vegas than So Cal. They are even having them in Oklahoma.

We live in a very nice clean neighborhood. Our neighbors are all friendly.

As in any city it is important to get familiar with the different areas if you plan on moving here. Some are better than others.

We can't wait to move here. Now that all the kids are out of the house we have more flexibility to make this happen.

If you have any questions feel free to ask me.
Las Vegas isn't "ground zero" when it comes to earthquakes (especially compared to other parts of Nevada and California) - but it's certainly more at risk than where I live now:

Today's Earthquakes in Nevada

It seems to be enough of an issue that earthquake insurance is recommended. You're right that the deductibles out west seem to be high - like 10%. Especially compared to our windstorm deductibles - which are usually 2% or so. Our earthquake deductible is pretty much the same as our fire deductible (very low).

I'm a little scared of earthquakes - more so than hurricanes. Because there's no warning. Was only in one once - years ago in Yosemite - a minor one. But I have a cousin whose house got super messed up in the Northridge earthquake. Guess I would take them more in stride if I had spent a lot of my life in "earthquake county".

One issue I've pondered is whether it's possible for a person who's retired to avoid bad traffic for the most part in metro areas with bad traffic simply by avoiding "rush hours". As you pointed out - it's becoming increasingly impossible to do so in places like Los Angeles because "rush hours" are so long now. Miami - where I used to live - is very similar to Los Angeles. And I suspect there are other metro areas in this category too. One difference between Los Angeles and Miami (and some other "sunbelt" metro areas) is Los Angeles seems to have more of an emphasis on public transportation - although it is still pretty much "baby steps" compared to many metro areas up north. Robyn
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:09 AM
 
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Put me down as a "no way" as far as moving to Vegas. I just don't like it and I live in So Cal but in the high desert area so I know it fairly well. There are too many negatives in Vegas when you put it all together including crime, drug and alcohol abuse, weather, demographics I don't like and as far as I'm concerned the general atmosphere of the city. It's a fun place to visit but it wouldn't make my top 100 places I would want to live in.
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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I lived in SoCal for two years, 99-01, and despite the fact I was in a new-construction condo, did not have AC. I was shocked! I was a mile from the Pacific and it got darn chilly at night, even in summer. There WERE a few nights where I could have used AC, but not many. However, I think the climate is much warmer now. I stayed with a friend a few years ago during a hot spell and had a heck of a time sleeping.

Been in FL full-time for three years and the summers haven't been too horrific....except for this past one. I think the hottest summer on record, and the mosquitoes/no-seeums/whatever just adore me. It was like opening the door into a steam bath, even at 11 PM.

Haven't lived in Vegas but have been there in May and also Palm Springs in July. That heat was like being in a blast furnace. We ate at an outdoor restaurant at night with ceiling fans but it was darn uncomfortable.

So all in all, when it comes to weather, I think I'd prefer SoCal. But close to the coast.
I honestly can't see new construction in the US without AC (or heat for that matter). Not with what new construction costs in most of the country today. Even if you only need one or the other a few days a year.

Even Santa Monica gets highs over 90 (and the very occasional 100+).

https://weather.com/weather/monthly/...+CA+90401:4:US

Our Florida summers are pretty much "same same" for the most part. Hot and humid. Lows in the 70's - highs in the high 80's or low to mid 90's. The worst I remember was the summer of 1998. It might not have set any records. But we had a major drought. And the rainy season was very late. We were getting close to or over 100 for days on end (very unusual). And - because of the wildfires - when you went outside - it was like gargling charcoal. Only time I can remember canceling early morning tennis matches because of air quality issues.

In any event - I know all of us have different temperature tolerances in terms of heat and cold. But there's no reason we should suffer through extremes because builders are too cheap to install proper HVAC systems that allow us to customize our indoor environments. Robyn
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Robyn, I'm curious as to why you didn't post this in the Las Vegas forum? More than a few retirees posting there...
I thought I'd get more diversity of thinking here from people who spend/have spent a lot of time thinking about different retirement locations from a lot of different points of view. In the geography specific forums - you tend to get people who are either "boosters" or "bashers". The opinions aren't usually that nuanced. Robyn
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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We have a grandchild in Las Vegas and actually considered relocating there upon retirement to assist with him. Areas like Providence are nice, suburban areas that have the "conveniences of Vegas without the drama of Vegas proper"... We don't mind the heat (its a dry heat, much more tolerable to us than humidity) and we LOVE the colder evenings the desert provides...good sleeping weather for sure!

The one thing that stopped us dead in our tracks was the water issues. Vegas is going to be in a WORLD OF HURT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE with water issues. You will not be able to GIVE homes away, and that right there put the Kabash on our plans to retire there.

Las Vegas Going Dry? Largest Reservoir In America Reaches Record Low | Zero Hedge

We have been going to Vegas because of family there since the 80's and have NEVER, EVER seen the Lake Mead level as low as it currently is for as long as it has been these past 8 yrs....
Good point - and I hadn't checked on the issue. Not only is there a water issue - but no one seems to be taking it very seriously judging from the irrigation "rules" (up to 6 days a week in the summer!):

https://www.lvvwd.com/conservation/d..._schedule.html

We've had fairly strict mandatory irrigation rules here in NE Florida for a long time. Max of twice a week during daylight saving time. Once a week the rest of the year. Robyn
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Old 11-07-2016, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and Las Vegas, NV
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We will be in LV mid-December to find a rental house in a 55+ community either in Summerlin or Henderson. Try for a year before we buy. We have been looking for a long time. Also like a community in Surprise, AZ.

We have elmininated so many places (including Ponte Vedra, FL) either because of weather, taxes, cost of living or being too remote from the city. We like to be near a city for the restaurants and shows and would prefer to live in a city if we could find a city with a 55+ community right in the middle of it all.

There are things I've read about Las Vegas that concern me (crime, water shortage) but we haven't found other options where there is a great choice of active retirement communities and we do want to try living in such a community.
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Old 11-07-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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We will be in LV mid-December to find a rental house in a 55+ community either in Summerlin or Henderson. Try for a year before we buy. We have been looking for a long time. Also like a community in Surprise, AZ.

We have elmininated so many places (including Ponte Vedra, FL) either because of weather, taxes, cost of living or being too remote from the city. We like to be near a city for the restaurants and shows and would prefer to live in a city if we could find a city with a 55+ community right in the middle of it all.

There are things I've read about Las Vegas that concern me (crime, water shortage) but we haven't found other options where there is a great choice of active retirement communities and we do want to try living in such a community.
This makes good sense. Whenever you choose a place to retire, it's all about balance. What one person finds important, anther person doesn't. For myself, my biggest concern is affordability and low crime. I'm not one to go to shows or need lots of restaurants and diversity. It takes Vegas out of the picture immediately for myself.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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IMO, I think some of the problems with Jacksonville would also apply to Las Vegas.

If you don't like suburbanized "strip mall" development, I would think you'd find much the same thing in Las Vegas that you will in Florida.

If you're at a stage in your life where your outdoor activity is limited, does climate matter as much?

Drought in the west is going to be a sustained long term deal without quick fixes, and drought is more complex than most people realize. It's a meteorological drought ("it hasn't rained in 100 days!"), an agricultural drought (the grass is all burnt up), as well as long-term hydrological issues (Lake Mead water level issues - too many people siphoning off the Colorado River). Odds are you will be gone before this gets really severe, but Las Vegas has deeper structural problems related to drought than most drought-stricken areas.

It's something I just wouldn't want to deal with.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:47 AM
 
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The one thing that stopped us dead in our tracks was the water issues. Vegas is going to be in a WORLD OF HURT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE with water issues. You will not be able to GIVE homes away, and that right there put the Kabash on our plans to retire there.

Las Vegas Going Dry? Largest Reservoir In America Reaches Record Low | Zero Hedge

We have been going to Vegas because of family there since the 80's and have NEVER, EVER seen the Lake Mead level as low as it currently is for as long as it has been these past 8 yrs....

Do you know many states take water from Lake Mead and the Colorado river? It just happens to be in our backyard. Every state has a water allocation and NV actually has a surplus every year because everyone is taking out the grass.

Do some research on this. Whose going to be in a world of hurt is Phoenix because of the deal they made.

Go to NPR and find the discussion about Lake Mead between the Southern NV Water District and the Phoenix water district. Phoenicians are the ones who are going to dry up. They made a very bad deal. They'll be moving in mass. Even their water district manager admits this.

Some of these excuses show how little one knows about Vegas. Suicides high? Many are people coming form other states and offing themselves here.
Seriously what does that have to do with the rest of us not suffering from mental illness or made bad life decisions? How does that effect the rest of us? If you aren't prone to suicidal behavior, than why would that keep you from moving here?

I suffered from Seasonal Affective Disorder in the Midwest cause of the lack of light. Got no problems now.

These people crossing the street are OUTSIDE a cross walk. They are violating the law. Again many are tourists or drunk. I know in many states cars stop and let people go. That would create more traffic problems here. So they made these laws. Don't come here thinking your state laws apply here. Again how does that affect someone who lives here. Common sense, don't cross against the light or not at a cross walk.
And it does not happen every night. And again why would that keep you from moving here? You now are aware of the reality, nothing to fear.

We do not have legalized 'hooking" here. You would not believe the number of men or women that get busted every night who think we do. Of course all tourists.

The idea we have nothing here but casinos is typical of someone who has never been here or has never went off the strip. I had a friend here this summer who thought that. They are now looking to expand their overseas business to NV and are currently looking for a home. Off strip reminded her of LA or Palm Springs. She lives in the Southern Hemisphere and loved our heat this past summer. To each his own.

I won't even go into the list of what other things Vegas offers.

You don't have to hike out at Red Rock. We have more walking trails than about any city in the country. And they all look different.

Many huge computer companies and other businesses house there mainframes here at a place called SWITCH. Why, because we have the most stable weather and lack of having huge natural disasters. Don't believe me, go to 60 MINUTES and find the show.
I have lived here 16 years and have never felt the earth rattle near my home (SW) Yes I have earthquake insurance, I can afford it and my house was expensive. My deduct is 5%.

Most of the year is gorgeous weather. We actually have 4 seasons but they aren't as extreme as the midwest or east coast. Most of the winter you will have to wear a jacket.

Oh and we lack bugs! It's so nice to go out in the evening or have a picnic and not be bothered. I have seen about 5 flies in 16 years. They come in on food trucks from other locations. They can't reproduce here as the nasty offspring (maggots) need humidity. I have never seen a scorpian or a tarantula.

Traffic is getting worse. The word is out this is a good place to live. I just plan my day around not being on the roads at certain times.

The Lakes is a lovely area! (Try Those Guys, at the lakes shopping area if you haven't yet.)
We live about 10 minutes from there, in another lovely area. We have all kinds of wildlife, coyotes, bobcats, hawks, quail to name a few. Love it! Our neighbors are wonderful. But when everyone comes from some place else, they are interested in making friends. My neighbors don't usually move. So the turnover is low.

We too didn't want another house. I'd rather travel than be stuck going to the same place year after year.

Life for us off the strip is not that much different than the huge midwest city we came from. We don't gamble so the machines etc. we don't pay attention to. Except now we have wonderful dining and shows to go to. If we feel like it, we take a staycation at the Wynn or Bellagio. To get that vib of the strip.

Yeah I LOVE this city. We usually leave some during those 2 to 3 months in the summer. Vacation time! Vegas has been good for us in many ways. And its close to CA, so 5 hour drive to the ocean.

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Old 11-07-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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Renting is definitely a good idea. You may like it for 6 months and then discover you are absolutely miserable. The heat just doesn't work for some people. It's also expensive - water and a/c are not cheap. Some people need green as in plants and grass. The harsh look and living of the desert just doesn't work for everyone.
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