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Old 11-21-2016, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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OK here are a few of his current reverses in writing- must read on "entitlements":

Here Are All of Trump's New Policy Stances Post-Election

 
Old 11-21-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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You Millenials and Gen X will be eliminated from SS. The younger Boomers as well. Those over 75 probably won't live to see it eliminated either.

It is those of us younger SS Beneficiaries (oldest Boomers) who be the generation to be the most screwed, if we live long enough.
This is laughable rhetoric. Without Social Security, 70% of Millenials and Gen X will starve to death when they age to the point where they can't work. In the long term, Social Security is only 70% funded and there's a 30% gap. This rhetoric comes from rich people trying to delay the tax hikes recommended by the bipartisan commission that largely fall on the backs of the rich. Employers face a 1% hike in their side of payroll taxes. Rich people own all the stock in those corporations. Lifting the $118,500 earnings cap on the Social Security tax only impacts the top-6% of affluent people.

Any politician advocating killing Social Security is doing the bidding of the 1%ers. They're merely trying to delay the inevitable rich people tax hikes. That Fox News feed the right wingers watch is funded by the patron saint of the rich people, Rupert Murdoch. Those tax hikes are going to happen but it's worth it to the 1%ers to do whatever they can to delay it for a decade.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Ok, fair enough but how much do you think your rates would drop if they excluded people of a certain age from treatment of autism? But regarding your claim that all most people need only catastrophic coverage, how would that work when The average price of a new uninsured patient appointment was quoted as $160, the cost of an ambulance ride is $400-$1200 and the average cost of an MRI is $2611 Median family income in 2016 is $56,516 For a family of four earning the median income several routine doctor visits in a month can represent a catastrophe to their finances.

We need to go to a single payer plan with regulated fees and competition for pharmaceuticals. What we have now is a give away to insurance companies and for profit hospitals. What Ryan offers is a plan that gives even more power to the privateers who got us in this mess.
When you have catastrophic you do not pay the uninsured rate. you pay the rate agreed upon with the insurance company. If you go to the ER and the insurance company agreed to $700 and the price is $2000 the fully insured pay nothing, catastrophic policy holders pay $700, and the uninsured pay $2000.

How many families make several ROUTINE visits to the doctor in a month? Maybe in a year.

We need to stop having people run to the doctor for every ache and pain.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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People do not outgrow autism.
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They also don't get it at 60. That would be a preexisting condition for the ones that have it from infancy.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Making profits off of sick people is morally wrong, IMO. Get ready for $600 Epipens and $500insulin/mo under the new administration. Speculation? Just look at the appointees to see what direction Trump is heading in with control of ALL branches of government.

Conservatives love to bring up the "freeloaders" to justify cutting taxes and social programs but it is just a smokescreen for their selfishness and lack of caring for their fellow man. They only really care about money after you sift through the rhetoric.

They most likely won't change people currently receiving SS, Medicare, etc. but be very worried if you haven't already started collecting SS. If you are 62+ And not getting SS, watch what they do like a hawk after Jan 20.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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Very doubtful. If they made changes to social security like that you can guarantee sweeping changes in congress in 2 years and the white house in 4 with the changes being reversed.
Agree. I can see the Medicare age going up like Social Security did, which will be problematic for folks in their 60s with all the Obamacare uncertainty.

The taxes will have to go up somewhat by raising the Social Security cap on earnings. If seniors have their SS cut and have Medicare payments rise sharply (or worse yet go to the voucher system), it will not only affect them but also their families. Some of the Trump voters may change their tune if their parents or their in-laws have to move in with them or if they need thousands of dollars in support. Many Trump voters do not have those resources.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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He won't be wasting time going after her, or sue the women who accused him. He says things to get attention which he hoped would turn into votes. If he thought the path to win was to show how much he loved Muslims, he would have done a complete 180 on it in a heart beat. But he looked at a way to focus on voters that nobody else wants to touch. It was the path of least resistance for him to unite them with their hate. The only thing he wanted to do from many years ago, was be President. It is clear the way he talked in interviews. After all, there are plenty of billionaires who many people in the public don't know their name or what they even look like, and they live their private lives. It isn't like it was a requirement he had to be on talk shows and appear at events and have a reality TV show in order to be very wealthy. Trump has been looking for the opportunity to run for President for decades.

What you call hate, I'll call being suspicious. You see, I don't want this country to turn into one of the hell holes that are all over the middle east. I don't want to see suicide bombers here. Not in my country.


Do Muslims have a right to be here? Sure, if they play by our rules and customs. They are the minority here.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Agree. I can see the Medicare age going up like Social Security did, which will be problematic for folks in their 60s with all the Obamacare uncertainty.

The taxes will have to go up somewhat by raising the Social Security cap on earnings. If seniors have their SS cut and have Medicare payments rise sharply (or worse yet go to the voucher system), it will not only affect them but also their families. Some of the Trump voters may change their tune if their parents or their in-laws have to move in with them or if they need thousands of dollars in support. Many Trump voters do not have those resources.
I suspect many Trump voters already have or plan to have their parents move in with them.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Ryan can count on two years to successfully "save" Medicare. How can he NOT succeed with a Republican Congress and a Republican President who has indicated he wants to "modernize" Medicare?

Although Social Security also needs to be modified I don't believe that will happen within the next two years.
 
Old 11-21-2016, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Ryan can count on two years to successfully "save" Medicare. How can he NOT succeed with a Republican Congress and a Republican President who has indicated he wants to "modernize" Medicare?

Although Social Security also needs to be modified I don't believe that will happen within the next two years.
Well, he won't have to worry about that since his new Medicare plan will cost 50%-100% of what the average person receives from Social Security anyway. And that's after the voucher payment.
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