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Old 11-26-2016, 05:16 AM
 
Location: R.I.
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Sorry, but that's complete nonsense.

While it may make you feel good to believe that lifestyle determines all, each person is an individual. I have iron deficiency anemia; my father had it as well. A close friend of ours has familial hypercholesterolemia, which is a genetic defect that causes high total cholesterol and high LDLs. It has nothing to do with diet or lifestyle. He is on statins.
I agree with you. Clean living can certainly impact for some the reduction and control of certain diseases such as coronary artery disease, diabetes, and COPD but unfortunately does nothing in regards to the prevention and control of diseases such as Parkinson's. This devastating disease results from a section of the brain no longer manufacturing dopamine, and without supplementation of the medication levodopa, people who suffer from this disease become rigid and mobility is difficult and eventually non existent. Interestingly, research has found lower incidences of this disease amongst those that smoke and ingest caffeine products.

My late husband who died at age 49 of a massive coronary occlusion did not drink, smoke, worked out daily, and ate an exceptionally clean diet and literally would become nauseous at the sight of butter. Had he not been so stubborn by his refusal to see a doctor on a regular basis where his elevated lipids that were not being controlled by his clean lifestyle would have been discovered, quite possibly he taking a statin when all else failed could have saved his life.

Nobody enjoys taking medications, but thankfully they are available when all else fails.
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The lesson is to only talk to sympathetic people!
The lesson should be to get on with your life. If your life only consists of medication and your ailments as it seems to be with some people you won't find many willing to listen, except from others that also have a life that only consists of medication and ailments.

Many people take drugs daily. They also do many other things. I am sure many of my friends take some types of drugs but I don't know who takes what. It isn't talked about when there are so many other things to say.
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Old 11-29-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I take vitamins and an aspirin every day!
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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Thyroid,various insulin products, Atenolol, Plavix, Respiradone,Lisinapril, Atvorstatin, B 12, Folic acid, Gabapentin, Nitro patches, Meclizine, Melotonin, Asprin.
I don't know if you know this but if you take Lisinopril you have a 1% change of spontaneously developing a severe allergic reaction, that could result in death.

No one ever told me that when I was taking lisinopril. No one told my wife that either. She's dead now of a severe allergic reaction to the drug, 6 months after starting lisinopril.

Now the research I've found said the chance of developing the allergic reaction is 1%, but my wife's death certificate does not list lisinopril as her cause of death. It does list respiratory failure, and other things related to other medical conditions she had, but her other medical conditions, while they may have eventually caused her death, were not the immediate cause. An ER doctor and two ICU doctors all confirmed to the family that lisinopril allergic reaction was the immediate cause, yet it is not mentioned as her cause of death.

So, at the very least, death as a result of lisinopril may be under reported, and the actual risk may be higher.

YRMV
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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That [vodka] + good sex makes a happy life.
And the only prescription I take is one that allows good sex without pain! I agree with those who say it's partly healthy living but also good genes and some luck.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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If you are retired or fast approaching that point in life, it would not be unusual at all that you may be on some medications to help you along for one or more health conditions. What medications are you on that you consider to be life-saving that you will probably be on for the foreseeable future?

My current need for a hormone blocker is based on keeping breast cancer from returning and that is independent of my retirement status and age.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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At age 69, I take no meds. At age 67, my wife takes no meds. It's not because we never go to the doctor. We do when we need to, but otherwise stay away.

There are many older adults who are obese, who smoke, drink, have a history of recreational drug use, and who choose not to eat even half sensibly, or to get any exercise at all. They are up late at night, sleep poorly, spend the day in front of the TV and run to some doctor when they get a hangnail. They don't say who they are and I'm not asking. It's their choice.

Those of us who live cleanly and have no history of obesity, smoking, or excessive alcohol or drug abuse, don't usually need any/many meds.

Another thing that stymies me, is all the psychtropic drugs people are on. Anxiety, nervousness, boredom, depression, whatever it is, they take whatever some doc or psyche-type prescribes, and just take it for life.

Periodically, anyone on meds should get together with their doc and go over every prescription, and honestly evaluate whether it is still needed. Chances are, the doc won't want to change anything, unless substituting one drug for another.

The idea that you are not on your meds for life, is apparently a novel concept to them.
What an ignorant pompous patronizing “sense of superiority” assumption. Living a healthy life , an active life, following all the rules you claim did not spare me from getting cancer sheesh! And I’d NEVER sit on my moral high horse judging others whose genetics or life circumstances have led to a need for psychiatric meds.
Just WOW!
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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Sorry, but that's complete nonsense.

While it may make you feel good to believe that lifestyle determines all, each person is an individual. I have iron deficiency anemia; my father had it as well. A close friend of ours has familial hypercholesterolemia, which is a genetic defect that causes high total cholesterol and high LDLs. It has nothing to do with diet or lifestyle. He is on statins.
I’m with you fluffy, I find such an attitude appallingly ignorant.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:59 PM
 
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I'm taking the same medications I took when I was in my 30s, nothing new.

Disclaimer: No, I'm not obese, not lazy, don't smoke, and I eat healthy food...just giving this info for those who think that only fat, lazy smokers who eat junk food need some kind of medication.
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Old 05-17-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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We can always hope sheer hubris will be appropriately rewarded by the fates.
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