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Old 12-21-2016, 06:42 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Your 4th paragraph describes many people who get up everyday and work 40 + hours a week despite aches and pains.
Aches and pains will *not* get you disability payments.

Ailments that cause - even if periodically - physical and/or mental inability to perform meaningful work will get you disability payments.
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Old 12-21-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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4/7ths of my extended family are on ssdi for their "ailments." They are all able to work just fine under the table however, they know which docs to go to to get certified. My sister's boyfriend and his ENTIRE FAMILY just hired a lawyer to get them all on SSDI. It is the new "welfare without the shame.". Also it is entirely possible that your benefits will be reduced drastically when you turn 6? and move from SSDI to SS or SSI. This will happen to my sister who never paid into SS.
If your sister never paid into SS, she is ineligible for SSDI. https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10029.pdf (pp. 5-6 are most relevant to this issue.)
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Old 12-21-2016, 06:47 PM
 
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Your SSDI will convert to regular SSI at the current rate you're receiving (according to what SS told me) when you turn 65 so what's the point of worrying given your current age?
SSDI converts to regular Social Security at Full Retirement Age, which varies depending on your year of birth: https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/retirechart.html
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Lifetime Welfare was abolished in 1995... wow, look at what happened to the growth.. payments is HIGHER than receipts...
I feel sorry for the Chief Actuary of SSA every time I see nonsense like this.

In every friggin presentation, this guy has to explain not only WHY there was an increase in applications for disability benefits but that the increase was predicted many years ago. Perhaps the actuaries were able to predict this because, unlike the rest of us, they knew the exact years when the Boomers were "reaching their most disability-prone years" and that more women had joined the workforce. What they did not initially anticipate was a drop in the birthrate and, of course, the Great Recession (high unemployment=reduced receipts).

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/dibGraphs.html

https://www.ssa.gov/disabilityfacts/facts.html

[BTW, back in '95 the folks kicked off of TANF (welfare) were mothers with minor children. These were not people who were eligible for SS disability benefits.]
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Savannah
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I went on SSDI because I could not stand or walk because or Arthritis, I got a job driving and was able to collect my full benefit until I turned 66 and then It converted automatically to Social Security at the exact same benefit. You do not lose any benefit when you switch from Disability to SS.

People who laugh at Arthritis are just jerks. They will find out eventually.
nope they'll be dead because Trump® Death Panels™. They're TREMENDOUS.
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:41 PM
 
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Aches and pains will *not* get you disability payments.

Ailments that cause - even if periodically - physical and/or mental inability to perform meaningful work will get you disability payments.


no, but a " bad back " can and will.


A guy who recently died lived the last 20 years on SSDI after a back injury.


A back so bad he could not work any job yet he had a deep tan in summer from sitting in a boat hours on end fishing.
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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no, but a " bad back " can and will.
A guy who recently died lived the last 20 years on SSDI after a back injury.
A back so bad he could not work any job yet he had a deep tan in summer from sitting in a boat hours on end fishing.
If it's so easy to get and it provides such a wonderful income that you can lay around on a boat all day fishing then why don't you apply for it?
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Old 12-22-2016, 12:47 AM
 
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It converts to regular SS, not SSI. SSI is the program for the disabled who don't have enough earnings to receive SSDI.
It is also the program that replaces Social Security for people over 66 who did not pay into Social Security. It pays a minimal income but it beats starving.

The SSI web site says, "It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income"
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Old 12-22-2016, 06:39 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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no, but a " bad back " can and will.


A guy who recently died lived the last 20 years on SSDI after a back injury.


A back so bad he could not work any job yet he had a deep tan in summer from sitting in a boat hours on end fishing.
And your point is . . . ?
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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If it's so easy to get and it provides such a wonderful income that you can lay around on a boat all day fishing then why don't you apply for it?
some of us have ethics .
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