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Old 12-29-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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WTH are you talking about now? You and jrkliny have no business sticking your noses into anybody's retirement activities in order to determine whose is worthy and whose isn't.

Go! Strive for genius when you retire. Leave everyone else alone.
Methinks thou dost protest too much. I commented because the thread is on this topic. "Sticking your noses into" is what we say when someone had invaded our privacy. In this case it is a matter of observing the human condition and commenting on it, an entirely legitimate activity.

In addition I believe you mis-read part of my post. I was pointing out that I was NOT talking about striving for genius, as that is the province of a rare few. There is a vast middle ground between genius and mindlessness.

To clarify your last line, I am already retired; I retired 11 years ago. And it has been my good fortune to have some gratifying and challenging endeavors.

I had criticized the OP for "bashing" people who were bored in retirement. I was not bashing anybody, just pointing out that perhaps what the bored need is challenge of some sort.

Perhaps you could strive for more nuanced analyses to replace your angry venting.
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Old 12-29-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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You are ass.u.ming that your definition of accomplishment is the only definition.
Quite the contrary. I am recommending that each individual should set their own goals and follow their own passions.
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Old 12-29-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Yep-- one persons boring is anothers nirvana.


My brother is 67 and works fulltime doing insulation work. He is hoping to return to the shale oil fields in 2017.


For Jim and I, a daily walk in "Gods Country"(upper peninsula of Michigan) is exhilarating and is all the excitement/purpose we need. 3 dogs and a 116 year old house that we are redoing rounds out what we want out of life right now.


I do believe that we retire only from one way of life to another and that something needs to center your efforts. In our case its the aforementioned walks, dogs and old house.
Interesting our houses were built the same year. I too enjoy walking the dogs in winter but I gotta tell you as much as I still enjoy the chores this house and property require it is getting old and I do look forward to moving to something easier to maintain.


As for the thread I'm not sure why Jimmy was getting such criticism. I think this is an interesting thread that brought up a fascinating topic.
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Old 12-29-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Xtreme SW Tennessee
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I have been retired since 2008. Boredom has NOT been a problem. It has been chock full of opportunities. I am not wealthy, but there have been opportunities to travel: cruises, day trips, road trips, conferences on topics that interest me. I have been able to do more "work" in my church, assist my family during health crisis, surf the internet (LOL!), and READ. I have a never ending, ever increasing list of books.... ALL at my own convenience & without being at the mercy of a boss who may or may not "let" you be off. Cannot imagine being "bored!"
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Old 12-29-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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But I'm not the one complaining I'm bored with life, they are. I'm not worried at all, just trying to understand why they are like that and maybe help them out.
You're complaining about others who complain, and then in your next thread you ask why people call you a whiner and to get over yourself.
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Old 12-29-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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You're complaining about others who complain, and then in your next thread you ask why people call you a whiner and to get over yourself.
I second your . Now people are bringing "anger" and "Mozart" into the conversation... and blaming it on me. Holy crap!
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Old 12-29-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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I posted along this line about money,maybe retirement forum.
I retired in 1988 on limited funds at age 55 to North Fl,we enjoyed our years of doing what we wanted,never had any grandiose ideas but enjoyed our travels.
Today America compared to then is a nightmare,people uncaring,saftey,drivers etc.This during working years.
We went to D.C. after Kennedy assignation and with small camper we stayed at Dogwood Park around Annopolis,when we went to D.C we left all our gear on picnic table,small ac dc tv,lantern,cooler etc without a thought of theft unlike today,
The same when we visited Man of The Mountain in N.H.,I have 8mm tape to prove this,today it would be gone before you were out of the park.
Today because of age we have moved back to CT,a nightmare state.
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Old 12-29-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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...... The real accomplishments and breakthroughs during the history of our species have been made by elites. Of course it's all on a coninuum anyway; the Isaac Newstons, Albert Einsteins, J.S. Bachs, and Wolfgang Mozarts stand at the pinnacle and are truly rare birds. So while the vast majority of us are not part of that rare genius.......
The more I think about this the more I disagree. History does indeed remember just a few names of the very great. Major accomplishments including advancements in mankind's knowledge and arts are often made by an army of those who are not at the pinnacle and are more likely to be forgotten. It is not at all necessary to be a genius to achieve major accomplishments.


At the beginning of my retirement I developed skills in photography. I went from learning the technical aspects to learning the language of visual arts. I spent two years in the national parks doing photography all day everyday, 10 hours a day, 7 days a week. I practiced and read and studied for several additional years. I took workshops and semester after semester of course work. I have developed my own style. I look at the world in a unique way and can communicate that in my photography. Now a few years into retirement I have decided to extend by communication with visual arts. I am learning to work with acrylics and my favorites: charcoal and pastels. Due to my years of working with photography, I am making rapid progress. I have developed some technical capability in working with the media, but more important I have a style, artistic vision and intent. My photographs and charcoals and pastels have been shown in several galleries and exhibitions. There will be more in the future, but I am unlikely to have my work in MOMA. I certainly will not be remembered as one of the century's great artists.


I am not trying to brag and certainly do not claim to be a genius or great artist or a rare bird. It has taken me tens of thousands of hours of work to move from being a technologist to being able to express myself artistically. Others with similar average abilities can also decide to do the same. For me, my journey seems like a major accomplishment, even though my work has only slightly touched but a few people on this planet.


In addition to my artistic endeavors, I am learning archery. I had basic skills and a few years of informal experience, but now I am serious. I work at it every day for typically a couple of hours. I have just scheduled to start working with an Olympic coach. The fascination to me is the zen of archery, more specifically, the interplay of the conscious and subconscious mind. The developments in sports psychology are relatively new and powerful and with the internet and other resources are available to all of us. I don't know what this endeavor will accomplish beyond self satisfaction and personal knowledge. Clearly I will never make the US team or compete in the Olympics. But when I am on the edge of what I know and getting closer to the edge of what is known, the future is not predictable.


Again, with archery, I have no special skills or genius, just a determination to grow and learn. I will do something that is more than just filling time until I die. My recommendation would be that others who are retired, look beyond activities to their true interest and passions.
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Old 12-29-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I'm happy with just badminton. Call me wimpy, I'm ok with being a non genius.
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Old 12-29-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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I'm happy with just badminton. Call me wimpy, I'm ok with being a non genius.
I understand. This is why I have told Escort Rider and others that I am not hoping for much. My goal is merely to plant that idea that there is always more we can do in retirement. For those few who are interested, it is worth thinking about strong interests and passions. Badminton, for example, could be "just badminton" and a relaxing activity. For others it might become a passion.
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