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Old 01-10-2017, 09:40 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Where are they getting this "plenty of money" from?? And who are they getting it from??

I'd like to get in on that (haha). I've never heard of it before.
It says it in the article.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Central NY
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Can't believe everything I read.

Life stories are much more reliable.
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Old 01-10-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Can't believe everything I read.

Life stories are much more reliable.
No they aren't. It is better to see the facts than to hear one persons complaint on how "they say" it affects them.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Have a bit more sympathy for elderly residents - change can be hard enough when you are young, but to have lived in a place you know inside and out and then be required to go through the disruption and uncertainty of a move is very difficult, particularly if the residents are at all frail. Many people at that age (not all) don't adapt to change well.
Exactly. Forcing this kind of move could well kick some of the residents over into full-blown dementia.

My dad was fine as long as he was in the home where he had lived for 15 or 20 years.

However every hospitalization, and ultimately when I moved him to live with me, resulted in a sharp and obvious decline in his mental function.

It is a well-known phenomenon. The main reason for aging-in-place is that people who are able to live where everything is known and familiar are able to remain intellectually sound for much longer.

If I knew then what I know now, I'd have put off my doctorate (I didn't manage to finish it anyway due to my own disability racing down the pike towards me) and moved in with him instead. It would have been far better for us both.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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Exactly. Forcing this kind of move could well kick some of the residents over into full-blown dementia.

My dad was fine as long as he was in the home where he had lived for 15 or 20 years.

However every hospitalization, and ultimately when I moved him to live with me, resulted in a sharp and obvious decline in his mental function.

It is a well-known phenomenon. The main reason for aging-in-place is that people who are able to live where everything is known and familiar are able to remain intellectually sound for much longer.

If I knew then what I know now, I'd have put off my doctorate (I didn't manage to finish it anyway due to my own disability racing down the pike towards me) and moved in with him instead. It would have been far better for us both.
Bada Bing, amazing how the value of aging in place has often been overlooked in this discussion. I am not sure everyone has thought about themselves in the context of aging and the life prolonging value of aging in place if in fact it is a well supported place to age in.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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Can't believe everything I read.

Life stories are much more reliable.
Do you not believe the law?

You'd rather insist they get nothing but a swift kick?
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Central NY
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^^^^^ The situation you are talking about is totally different from the one where I live in central NY. Read my post a few pages back.

I do abide by the law. Some apartment complex owners do not. I have involved the Attorney General in my particular problem. I am fighting getting a swift kick.

One size does not fit all.
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Old 01-11-2017, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
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Did you read the actual article? The building owners wanted to do just as you describe. There are valid reasons why it was not possible.

They've done everything to accommodate these people. And they are on the side of the law here.
No, I did not read the original article. Somehow I missed that article link in earlier postings. You temporarily had me embarrassed by this over-sight until you used the phrase "these people".

With that comment my sympathies are fully with the current residents, and my suspicions remain that this is a deliberately evil plan.

I went back to the first post and read the LA Times article. None of the excuses offered by the management representatives are insurmountable construction problems. In fact, conversion/renovation of empty buildings is often done in phases for budgetary, work space, material staging, etc. reasons. It is just one more element of a successful construction plan.

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Old 01-11-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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No, I did not read the original article. Somehow I missed that article link in earlier postings. You temporarily had me embarrassed by this over-sight until you used the phrase "these people".
Looks like you read what you wanted to into that. Most of the people affected by the construction have moved out already. These people have not.

Somehow I don't think a simple phrase equates to defenestrating a 94 year old.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:01 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Bada Bing, amazing how the value of aging in place has often been overlooked in this discussion. I am not sure everyone has thought about themselves in the context of aging and the life prolonging value of aging in place if in fact it is a well supported place to age in.
Aging in place works if it's your own home. I think when you rent, I'm afraid you are at other people's mercy.
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