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Old 02-14-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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So if I am reading this right if a guy marries and divorces 10 woman each is entitled to 1/2 of his SS? That does not seem right. I don't see how any ex would have a claim to 1/2 of his SS.
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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So if I am reading this right if a guy marries and divorces 10 woman each is entitled to 1/2 of his SS? That does not seem right. I don't see how any ex would have a claim to 1/2 of his SS.
The ex-spouses must each have been married to the "guy" for at least 10 years, so i think 10 entitled ex-spouse are beyond the realm of possibility. But my husband's grandfather had 5 wives, and 3 of them were entitled to receive one-half of his benefit. Then after he died, those 3 all received 100% of the SS benefit he was receiving when he died.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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The ex-spouses must each have been married to the "guy" for at least 10 years, so i think 10 entitled ex-spouse are beyond the realm of possibility. But my husband's grandfather had 5 wives, and 3 of them were entitled to receive one-half of his benefit. Then after he died, those 3 all received 100% of the SS benefit he was receiving when he died.


Very interesting. I'm not so sure how I feel about this as a system that is about to become broke is paying out 3 times as many benefits simply because someone could not maintain a marriage.


But I guess that's not the ex-wives' fault.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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Very interesting. I'm not so sure how I feel about this as a system that is about to become broke is paying out 3 times as many benefits simply because someone could not maintain a marriage.


But I guess that's not the ex-wives' fault.
Who can say? It looks like there is at least one website telling wives to wait for 10 years to maximize their benefits. It looks like they can also get alimony for life after 10 years as well:
The Benefits of Being Married Ten Years - WIFE.org

It looks like Congress changed the requirement from 20 yrs to 10 years in the 70s:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/94th-c...nate-bill/2001
It looks like this was sponsored by Democrat Thomas L. Eagleton. Why did he want to change to what seems like a really low amount of time?
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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I would think that ten years in a bad marriage would be more than enough, of course I don't really know because I have been married 47.5 years to the same man.
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:59 PM
 
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for many , "until death do we part is not a marriage vow , as much as a goal "
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Old 02-24-2017, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Who can say? It looks like there is at least one website telling wives to wait for 10 years to maximize their benefits. It looks like they can also get alimony for life after 10 years as well:
The Benefits of Being Married Ten Years - WIFE.org

It looks like Congress changed the requirement from 20 yrs to 10 years in the 70s:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/94th-c...nate-bill/2001
It looks like this was sponsored by Democrat Thomas L. Eagleton. Why did he want to change to what seems like a really low amount of time?
On the Women and Money - Financial Education Groups, Advice and Workshops article about all that was said regarding alimony was:
In some states, such as California, in a marriage of ten years or longer the court retains he right to order that alimony be paid to the lesser-earning spouse for as long as she needs it, if the other spouse has the ability to pay.

I don't really think many wives get alimony...or that it amounts to much...or that it goes on "for life" in many cases any more. I know men love to whine about it but considering it can be difficult to collect on even child support, I can't imagine it is easy to get and collect on alimony unless you're in some kind of celebrity marriage.
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Old 02-24-2017, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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On the Women and Money - Financial Education Groups, Advice and Workshops article about all that was said regarding alimony was:
In some states, such as California, in a marriage of ten years or longer the court retains he right to order that alimony be paid to the lesser-earning spouse for as long as she needs it, if the other spouse has the ability to pay.

I don't really think many wives get alimony...or that it amounts to much...or that it goes on "for life" in many cases any more. I know men love to whine about it but considering it can be difficult to collect on even child support, I can't imagine it is easy to get and collect on alimony unless you're in some kind of celebrity marriage.
Oh it is easy. Women even have to pay men alimony in some cases. There is lifetime alimony in my state. I think it is the same deal, 10 years of marriage. The problem is that alimony is dumb in some cases, but to get out of paying it, the working spouse would have to spend a lot of time and money on legal fees and going to court.

In some cases, alimony is the result of a settlement. It may be a cheaper alternative if the spouse who was working has a lot of assets, or the cost of litigation would be too high. I'd imagine that you think many people don't get alimony because some of the recipients are too ashamed to brag about their free money. I'm glad to hear some of them at least have that.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:26 AM
 
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So if I am reading this right if a guy marries and divorces 10 woman each is entitled to 1/2 of his SS? That does not seem right. I don't see how any ex would have a claim to 1/2 of his SS.
He won't lose half, the SSA just pays the ex half of what he is getting.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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they each can get survivor benefits too which is even more than spousal
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