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Old 02-15-2017, 10:00 PM
 
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Yeah. but when you get joints and bones that won't work right, and have no access to a swimming pool, it gets harder and harder.
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Old 02-16-2017, 01:35 AM
 
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Oh no, I am doomed, doomed, DOOOOOOOOMED I tell you!

I was a runner and cyclist before I got sick. I doubt I ever will be again now, after 12 years of illness and slow recovery and a now permanent disability.

It kills me when a doctor tells me to exercise, as part of my disability involves severe exercise intolerance, LOL!
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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Oh no, I am doomed, doomed, DOOOOOOOOMED I tell you!

I was a runner and cyclist before I got sick. I doubt I ever will be again now, after 12 years of illness and slow recovery and a now permanent disability.

It kills me when a doctor tells me to exercise, as part of my disability involves severe exercise intolerance, LOL!
Doctors know nothing about exercise or nutrition. They won't even ask. My wife developed an intolerance to alcohol where if she has any wine even after 4:00, and doesn't then drink copious amounts of water, the wine will make her dehydrated, and cause her heart to beat fast. It doesn't exceed normal exercise levels of 90% of 220- your age. But the doctor know nothing about that and so she'd going on a month's heart monitor.

Since I figured this out for her(she doesn't believe me since she desperately wants to be on medication like her parents, and is deathly afraid of dying and so any test the doctor recommends she does no matter how dumb), I took her off alcohol altogether, and made sure that she had at least 16 oz of fluid in the 3 hours before bed, as well as taking the giant thick comforter off our bed(she's a very sound sleeper and won't wake up if she gets overheated, which she does since she's normally a high body temp).

So... since she normally has a lower blood pressure of 100/70, drinking alcohol before bed, not getting enough water, and being in a hot bed causes her heart to beat fast to compensate. Fixing these things 10 days ago, she hasn't had an episode since. But she's still taking the doctor's advice for a month's heart monitor. A doctor who asked nothing about her nutrition, knows nothing about her normal low blood pressure, and doesn't even realize that 140 beats per minute is not excessive if it only lasts 15 minutes, and goes away when her husband gives her a back rub, in cooler temperatures.

See now! You got me started.
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Oh no, I am doomed, doomed, DOOOOOOOOMED I tell you!

I was a runner and cyclist before I got sick. I doubt I ever will be again now, after 12 years of illness and slow recovery and a now permanent disability.

It kills me when a doctor tells me to exercise, as part of my disability involves severe exercise intolerance, LOL!
I have two illnesses thst make it difficult to diet successfully:

1. GERD: no medication worked so I finally just became a vegan which stops my stomach from even producing acid since it needs to produce alkaline to digest the totally vegetable proteins. But its difficult to do an Atkins type diet and lost weight without pain of always being hungry, since I can't eat meat/fish/eggs/cheese. And a vegan diet tends to be higher in calories.

2. Fibromyalgia: the disease tends to try to keep your system in stasis. If you eat less then it slows your metabolism down to compensate. So I have to literally eat no more than 1100-1200 calories a day to lose weight. If I was normal, then I would lose weight at about 2300 calories, and the weight would positively fall off at 1500. But i tend to gain weight at 1500, but 1100 -1200 is near starvation levels, and I get simply ravenously hungry, and then break the diet.
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Also older people don't digest protein as well and young people. And so I have to supplement my diet with powdered rice protein to make sure that I get enough protein.

Its not as simple as it seems once you get older. And I won't go to doctors since they only treat symptoms not the diseases. If I'm running a fever of 103 for four days, I will figure that I have something they can treat. If I broke my wrist or leg, or I need a new joint, then they can treat that. But if the issues involves a lifestyle change to diet or exercise, doctors were never trained in that model.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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Doctors know nothing about exercise or nutrition. They won't even ask. My wife developed an intolerance to alcohol where if she has any wine even after 4:00, and doesn't then drink copious amounts of water, the wine will make her dehydrated, and cause her heart to beat fast. It doesn't exceed normal exercise levels of 90% of 220- your age. But the doctor know nothing about that and so she'd going on a month's heart monitor.

Since I figured this out for her(she doesn't believe me since she desperately wants to be on medication like her parents, and is deathly afraid of dying and so any test the doctor recommends she does no matter how dumb), I took her off alcohol altogether, and made sure that she had at least 16 oz of fluid in the 3 hours before bed, as well as taking the giant thick comforter off our bed(she's a very sound sleeper and won't wake up if she gets overheated, which she does since she's normally a high body temp).

So... since she normally has a lower blood pressure of 100/70, drinking alcohol before bed, not getting enough water, and being in a hot bed causes her heart to beat fast to compensate. Fixing these things 10 days ago, she hasn't had an episode since. But she's still taking the doctor's advice for a month's heart monitor. A doctor who asked nothing about her nutrition, knows nothing about her normal low blood pressure, and doesn't even realize that 140 beats per minute is not excessive if it only lasts 15 minutes, and goes away when her husband gives her a back rub, in cooler temperatures.

See now! You got me started.
Medical testing seems to be the newest revenue stream for the local doc's here in my town, and, I suspect it is a national problem as well. Doctors seem to get through their schooling with very little training on the other aspects of disease beyond that which is covered in their Merk manual and their trusty PDR's. Drug prescription and testing equals a decent cash flow and the expediency needed in order to see more patients than a more thorough approach would allow. The Seattle Times has been covering the factory aspects of Seattle's biggest hospitals, get em in and get em out---Make munnneeee..
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Close to an earthquake
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I have two illnesses thst make it difficult to diet successfully:

1. GERD: no medication worked so I finally just became a vegan which stops my stomach from even producing acid since it needs to produce alkaline to digest the totally vegetable proteins. But its difficult to do an Atkins type diet and lost weight without pain of always being hungry, since I can't eat meat/fish/eggs/cheese. And a vegan diet tends to be higher in calories.

2. Fibromyalgia: the disease tends to try to keep your system in stasis. If you eat less then it slows your metabolism down to compensate. So I have to literally eat no more than 1100-1200 calories a day to lose weight. If I was normal, then I would lose weight at about 2300 calories, and the weight would positively fall off at 1500. But i tend to gain weight at 1500, but 1100 -1200 is near starvation levels, and I get simply ravenously hungry, and then break the diet.
----

Also older people don't digest protein as well and young people. And so I have to supplement my diet with powdered rice protein to make sure that I get enough protein.

Its not as simple as it seems once you get older. And I won't go to doctors since they only treat symptoms not the diseases. If I'm running a fever of 103 for four days, I will figure that I have something they can treat. If I broke my wrist or leg, or I need a new joint, then they can treat that. But if the issues involves a lifestyle change to diet or exercise, doctors were never trained in that model.
I'm so sorry that you struggle with your medical conditions. I live with someone who lives in chronic pain and understand how hard is the life of those who suffer. While I will never understand the depths of your pain or those who suffer from chronic pain, living up front and close with someone who does has broadened my understanding.
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Wow, I don't consider 50 a senior (convenient thinking I guess!!). I have RA and FM, my husband had broke his pelvis 4 years ago and had surgery twice last year after his collar bone tore loose when rolling an ATV.

I admit, you do heal slower and get injured easier the older we get, but physical fitness is so important. Today's exercise for us both? Run up and down 10 flights of stairs. Then a bunch of strength exercises. I exercise 5 days a week. It actually helps RA and FM, though it can totally suck at times.
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Doctors know nothing about exercise or nutrition. They won't even ask. My wife developed an intolerance to alcohol where if she has any wine even after 4:00, and doesn't then drink copious amounts of water, the wine will make her dehydrated, and cause her heart to beat fast. It doesn't exceed normal exercise levels of 90% of 220- your age. But the doctor know nothing about that and so she'd going on a month's heart monitor.

Since I figured this out for her(she doesn't believe me since she desperately wants to be on medication like her parents, and is deathly afraid of dying and so any test the doctor recommends she does no matter how dumb), I took her off alcohol altogether, and made sure that she had at least 16 oz of fluid in the 3 hours before bed, as well as taking the giant thick comforter off our bed(she's a very sound sleeper and won't wake up if she gets overheated, which she does since she's normally a high body temp).

So... since she normally has a lower blood pressure of 100/70, drinking alcohol before bed, not getting enough water, and being in a hot bed causes her heart to beat fast to compensate. Fixing these things 10 days ago, she hasn't had an episode since. But she's still taking the doctor's advice for a month's heart monitor. A doctor who asked nothing about her nutrition, knows nothing about her normal low blood pressure, and doesn't even realize that 140 beats per minute is not excessive if it only lasts 15 minutes, and goes away when her husband gives her a back rub, in cooler temperatures.

See now! You got me started.
I agree it's you. Doctors don't care about nutrition. There is a reason my husband and I don't drink anymore. We used to drink a glass of red wine a day because you've read it's good for your health. We also cut out a lot of things and pay attention to what we eat.
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Old 02-24-2017, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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............. I am going to participate in that jog-a-thon on February 24 with the fifth graders to whom I read aloud once a week. It doesn't matter how well or how poorly I fare in comparison to them. It will be fun, and I wlll regard it as a beginning point, not an end point, to regaining my fitness.
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Well, today is February 24 and this morning I ran in the jog-a-thon with about 120 fifth graders. I was able to jog for 20 minutes, but slowly. Twenty minutes was the time alloted. They had a course set up on the grass of their playing field - about one-tenth of a mile - and they kept track of how many laps each participant completed. I completed 17, which put me approximately at the 55th percentile among the fifth graders. I am aware of several boys who completed 24 laps.

And it was fun. The average fifth grader has no concept of pacing. Many kids would race by me going full speed, then I would pass them when they slowed to a walk. Rinse, repeat.

I started getting ready for this on January 1, as a New Year's resolution, so it's now coming up on two months. My progress has been glacially slow, as I knew it would be. But the worst thing would be to get discouraged and quit. It will probably take me several more months to get into the realm of what I consider to be a normal human being, but it feels nice to have made a start.

This is pretty much the most important thing there is at my age (72). The rest of my life is at stake. I can choose to be disabled or I can choose to live.
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Old 02-25-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Yay! For you ERider! Glad you went out, had fun with the kids, and achieved your goal!
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