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Old 02-15-2017, 12:04 AM
 
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Money very well spent by AARP because Paul Ryan really wants to privatize and I am just far enough away in age that the changes would really hurt. I fear that if Paul Ryan gets his way, I will have to wait to 67 for medicare and since I retired early, medical premium costs are a major concern. Medical premiums (group insurance from employer I retired from with no fringe) are our biggest expense by far. When i retired, I didn't even know these changes were a possibility. I don't like the idea of paying these high premiums for an extra two years. Plus vouchers are going to eventually mean higher out of pocket costs. And, I don't want to even think about having to go through a regular insurer rather than medicare. Why get rid of a good thing. I would rather pay higher premiums on the present system than be thrown into the hands of private insurers any day. I don't have faith that Trump will keep his word on this. We shall find out soon enough. I have a feeling that they might wait until after the next elections in 2018 and win more seats before they try to privatize because they know people will be upset. They're going to try to do it, it is just a matter of when. AARP needs to keep running these ads.
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Long Neck , DE
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Has anyone ever watched the TV ads offering all sorts of things free for those on Medicare? Maybe there should be some at least overseeing of what and costs of things available through Medicare.
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Old 02-16-2017, 01:36 AM
 
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Have you seen the one where Trump says he will protect Social Security and Medicare? I'm not sure I trust him enough to believe him.
I'm sure. I don't. I don't trust him and I don't believe him.
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Typical scare the old people campaign. AARP should change their name to FTFOP. Free things for old people.

I've found that one of the worst things about being old is some of the other old people. They think everyone, especially the government is out to get them.

I will always vote for the common good and not for what's in it for me. Medicare and SS need fixed. If I get a little less or pay a little more doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of things.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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There are never changes made to SS to people already receiving benefits or to those within 5-10 years of receiving benefits or longer than that.
IMO those ads are a waste of money unless AARP is concerned about the SS benefits for people still years away from receiving them. I'm not into fear mongering and that's what that ad is. AARP has been for a long time a pro Dem party organization and came out in full force for Obama Care instead of staying neutral on the matter. Nothing wrong with that, but they need to be upfront about who and what they really are.
Really? What about the one they put into effect last winter with a few months notice - so married and divorced could no longer collect on a spouse's record while delaying their own?

And there will be a lot more sneaky stuff done behind closed doors under a different name that can negatively impact SS - so let's not be naive about the "power" of this generation over politicians.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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Typical scare the old people campaign. AARP should change their name to FTFOP. Free things for old people.

I've found that one of the worst things about being old is some of the other old people. They think everyone, especially the government is out to get them.

I will always vote for the common good and not for what's in it for me. Medicare and SS need fixed. If I get a little less or pay a little more doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of things.
I'm not against slightly higher taxes and perhaps some limitations on benefits. However, a bright red line for me is "privatizing medicare". I'd like to see more of us develop the mentality that it will have to be done over our dead bodies. Finally, it shouldn't be acceptable that "they only plan to do it to the younger generation". All of us should have the benefit of a system that has worked for over 50 years.
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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I will always vote for the common good and not for what's in it for me. Medicare and SS need fixed. If I get a little less or pay a little more doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of things.
I doubt it would be a "little less".

If they did away with Medicare and you had to buy health insurance on the open market, that is equivalent to what you get with Medicare, your premiums would be $1000-1500/month. (I am basing this on what I paid for private insurance right before I was Medicare eligible). Ryan would give you a voucher for maybe $400 of that. Medicare negotiates low rates and uses that power to keep costs down. There would no guarantee that will happen with private insurance. Medicare does not make a profit. Private insurance will. In short, privatizing Medicare will be a disaster for most people.
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Well that's my point. What was the purpose of the ad when they know full well that any changes will not, never have and do not affect current recipients or those within a few years still of receiving them?
Congress can do anything it wants to Medicare. Just because big changes never occurred in the past does not mean anything. Trump is throwing all kinds of long-established things out.

What the AARP is doing is perfect - they are reminding Congress that the voting block of people over 65 is huge so tread carefully or they will be thrown out of office.
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If I see AARP on the screen, I either hit the mute button or change channel.
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Old 02-20-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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If I see AARP on the screen, I either hit the mute button or change channel.
They did support Obama Care and look at the mess that is in. A typical DEM interest group. Trump is smart enough not to mess with the "third rail" of SS or Medicare.

I am finding it hard to find docs that will take Medicare now. Even the Emergency care place I went to last week would not take it. GPs are not taking it as freely as in the past. I am on my third GP since Obamacare went into effect. I am afraid that in no time , we will have to pay extra for the "concierge docs " (MedVP) in order to really receive the quality care that WE want. Not the leftovers. ($2K a year PLUS co pays) just to see a "concierge doc".
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