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Old 02-25-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Colorado
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I don't doubt it, Shadow. From my limited experience (lol), the stuff for sale today isn't much like what was on the streets in the 70's. Back then, people actually smoked the leaves. Today, it's all seedless flower and has a few more decades of creative breeding. Most high-grade pot today WILL make you sick if you're not a little acclimated to it. Or maybe a better way to put it, "take it easy."

A wise old sage once said, "You can always take a little more, but you can never take a little less."
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Old 02-25-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Florida -
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IMO, "medical" marijuana is going down the same path as "legalized" abortions and "legalized" gambling. It is sold to the public based on isolated, anecdotal cases that represent a very small percentage of the total. Then, it gets deregulated until it is out-of-control with no relevance to the small, anecdotal percentages represented by "medical, rape and incest and tax benefits."

Ultimately, MMJ is only another outgrowth of "If it feels good, do it." It says, "This is what we want to do; - Let's make it sound like a good thing so we can legalize it - and no longer feel constrained by its negative consequences." Like it or not, one doesn't have to look far to see the astronomical human costs associated with smoking, drugs, alcohol and illicit sex.

I'm not suggesting that morality and unhealthy behaviors can (or should) be regulated. However, the pretense that these are good or beneficial things is only biased marketing, not reality.
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Old 02-25-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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A good place to start looking for specific strains for pain relief, arthritis etc.

https://www.leafly.com/start-exploring
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Old 02-25-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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A good place to start looking for specific strains for pain relief, arthritis etc.

https://www.leafly.com/start-exploring
Thanks for the link. I think several others have also suggested it. I was hoping Ohio would finally vote for the use of medical marijuana, but with the political climate the way it is today, no one may be allowed to use it in the future. Who knows?

I have read about the side effects and I know very well people who have used it for relieving the symptoms of illness. The benefits can be really great.

I have learned the hard way that many traditional drugs commonly used to treat many illnesses are not good for older people. Your body becomes less tolerant of the more powerful ones especially as you age. Side effects become greater and more potentially dangerous.

I've never seen or heard of the extracts from marijuana, given the proper strain in the proper dosage by a qualified dispenser, as harming anyone as much as some traditionally prescribed drugs.
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Old 02-25-2017, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in deep in Maine
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Has anyone heard about the new marijuana toothpaste? You still get cavities, but you don't care!
I think you are confusing that with the valium toothpaste.
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Old 02-25-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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Thanks for the link. I think several others have also suggested it. I was hoping Ohio would finally vote for the use of medical marijuana, but with the political climate the way it is today, no one may be allowed to use it in the future. Who knows?

I have read about the side effects and I know very well people who have used it for relieving the symptoms of illness. The benefits can be really great.

I have learned the hard way that many traditional drugs commonly used to treat many illnesses are not good for older people. Your body becomes less tolerant of the more powerful ones especially as you age. Side effects become greater and more potentially dangerous.

I've never seen or heard of the extracts from marijuana, given the proper strain in the proper dosage by a qualified dispenser, as harming anyone as much as some traditionally prescribed drugs.
Yeah, the only way you could have any "side effects" is from edibles, since it is easy to over do it thinking that they aren't working and taking too much, since it takes 15-30 mins for them to start working as they have to be digested first, at which point you get the full high pretty much all at once, which can be unsettling to people who have never experienced it because it's nothing like the gradual build up you would get from smoking the equivalent.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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Nope. Will not happen ever with me. I don't want to live with the horrible consequences for me personally. The way even a teensy bit of the mild stuff affected me 40 plus years ago was horrific .. extreme paranoia is not a fun thing to deal with.
It was probably the strain that you got back then. Also, if you had anxiety about smoking it you may have caused the paranoia yourself without realizing it. There are strains designed to combat paranoia https://www.leafly.com/explore#/expl...clude-paranoid
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:22 PM
 
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How do you know it was laced with something, if you didn't know for sure what it was? Isn't it possible it could've just been highly potent marijuana? While marijuana back in the 60's and 70's was pretty tame in comparison to some of the hybrids of today, there were some back then that could skyrocket you off to la-la land. Some today are much stronger, but not all. Some are a lot more mild. It's a wide spectrum from very mild to mind-numbingly strong. That said, I can certainly understand such an intense and questionable experience could provide an impact that's hard to forget about years after the fact.


I agree with you on this. Many of the reputable dispensaries, especially those providing marijuana for medical purposes, have stock that has been given extensive lab testing for purity and potency. This is usually done in accordance to state guidelines and regulations. Public safety is a high priority. A brief browse through websites like Leafy (as you probably know), tend to rate and categorize products, describe what kind of medical conditions the product may be useful for, and provide information about ingredients. Some are higher in THC, some are higher in CBD, and some are a balance of THC and CBD. If there are any "weird chemicals" found by the lab to be present in a batch, the batch is supposed to be discarded. If it isn't discarded, the dispensary can run the risk of being shut down.
Scummy street dealers even today with try and slip something considerably more addictive into the bud that they will try to pass off as THC crystals like you get with high potency weed, just to increase their profits by getting you on crack or the like. Just like adding formaldehyde to low quality marijuana.

These days, due to the legal dispensaries the street dealers have had to up their quality even in states where it isn't legal yet because their customers can easily look up what real high quality stuff looks like and get accurate descriptions of its scent and taste without ever spending a dime, so the street dealers are getting hight quality products as long as they aren't the previously described bottom feeders.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:26 PM
 
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From something I read today in my local on-line news, there is going to be a "crack down" on marijuana, supposedly for public safety.

I don't use it but have no problem with those who do use it.

I heard a discussion recently re marijuana vs alcohol. It was stated that some who use alcohol can have a personality change that causes them to become angry and quite violent (yes, I know this to be true, my father had this problem).

Then the speaker went on to say the marijuana user gets laid back and mellow with no tendency toward violence.

Wonder what all of you think.
Yeah, I've never seen anyone get it a fight while smoking, I think that it's pretty much impossible, now alcohol, plenty of times. I am a craft beer guy, but if I had to give up one permanently, it would be the alcohol.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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From what I understand, there's a concern about a possible "crackdown" because of hardliners that Trump has appointed that have a "Reefer Madness" view which stems back to the 1930's. I also gathered that such a "crackdown" would most likely be aimed at states that have allowed the use of marijuana for recreational purposes. I suppose that would involve closing dispensaries that sell recreational marijuana, possibly arresting people, and possibly cutting funds to states that allow recreational marijuana. WH Spokesman Sean Spicer tried to equate the rise of recreational use of marijuana as similar to the rise of opioid addiction. In any case, it has nothing to do with medical marijuana.
Trump administration signals a possible crackdown on states over marijuana - LA Times
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer...on_and_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937

Trump's earlier views with regard to marijuana used for medical purposes is that he has no problem with that and that it should be up to individual states to determine to allow medical marijuana. However, that remains to be seen. He has appointed people who have a strong anti-marijuana stance, so it's possible he could simply let the DEA and DoJ hardliners do as they want. This short video is from 2015.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWIQhDbs1g8
Allot of it is fueled by the alcohol and tobacco companies, who see marijuana as a threat to their bottom line. I've never much cared for tobacco, but any long time smoker knows that mixing 1 or 2 beers with your bowl actually enhances the high, but too much alcohol overrides the high.
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