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Old 02-21-2017, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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Sounds like a scam to me!
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Old 02-21-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Not terribly well. Seems everyone in this town is sort of a grifter, though, so it wouldn't surprise me. She was telling me I should take advantage of this, too, without really explaining what it was. I said I hope EVERYONE doesn't, or there won't be anything left by the time I get there!
Sounds like an interesting town lol. No one must trust anyone else!
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Old 02-22-2017, 06:38 AM
 
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She says she's getting a check directly from SS. I can't think of anything but disability, but why construct such a lie about it; why even mention it, much less encourage me to pursue it? Strange! It's true that our pension increases three-fold if it IS disability retirement -- and who can't claim a little depression or anxiety these days (even fibromyalgia can't be scientificially proven or disproven) so maybe she went for it but, again, I can't understand her misrepresenting what it is. Just wondered if you guys knew.
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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If we broke ssdi off from retirement social security and made it part of welfare , and then cracked down on the fraud and abuse in disability they can fully fund ss and have money left over . just watch a few judge judy episode's to see how rampant disability fraud is as she traps those coming on her show suing for money for construction work they did on their own while collecting disability claiming they can't work .
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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True!
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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No, the shyster company gives you money, and you are required to sign over your SS checks when you get them. Like a payday loan advance, or a legal contract or you have to buy them out. I've read of lottery winners doing that, but not ever SS. Never a smart move by any stretch.
SS is protected, you can't sell it, you can't transfer it.
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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If we broke ssdi off from retirement social security and made it part of welfare , and then cracked down on the fraud and abuse in disability they can fully fund ss and have money left over . just watch a few judge judy episode's to see how rampant disability fraud is as she traps those coming on her show suing for money for construction work they did on their own while collecting disability claiming they can't work .
Judge Judy's court? What's next? Days of Our Lives?
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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well it's true , the system is filled with fraud and abuse . the court shows are all a random sampling of what is going on in general . it is not just her show .

so many seem to do construction work or other work then without realizing it sue for their money . she is the best though , the other shows don't do what she does and forward the tapes on to disability . yet these fools still keep going on the shows .

the disability fund is just as abused and filled with fraud as all the other welfare programs . my son was an investigator for welfare in nyc .
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Old 02-22-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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She says she's getting a check directly from SS. I can't think of anything but disability, but why construct such a lie about it; why even mention it, much less encourage me to pursue it? Strange! It's true that our pension increases three-fold if it IS disability retirement -- and who can't claim a little depression or anxiety these days (even fibromyalgia can't be scientificially proven or disproven) so maybe she went for it but, again, I can't understand her misrepresenting what it is. Just wondered if you guys knew.
Really????? Tell me how I can get this three-fold increased pension! I am on Social Security Disability and have been since 2010. I can guarantee that there is no way a single, childless person can start drawing Social Security early...unless they are on SS Disability. And then...there is no three-fold increase in the pension that you receive.


Maybe your friend has some private or work-related pension and is considered disabled through that disability insurance...but she is not getting Social Security early. Also, once you do get SS Disability, you are extremely limited on how much you can earn each year (something like $15,500). After you reach "full" retirement age, you can earn as much money as you want without it reducing your Social Security benefit. However, if you are receiving SS Disability (or any disability), you are probably not capable of working very much.


It is extremely difficult to receive SS Disability early. Claiming a little depression/anxiety or fibromyalgia won't win you your claim. You need to prove every little motion that your body can make and for how long you can maintain that motion. Your doctor needs to verify all this. Every job that you have had in the past 10-15 years will be thoroughly checked out with your former employers to ascertain what the required tasks were and why you could not accomplish them. You need to have extensive documentation from multiple physicians that you have been under medical treatment for an extensive period of time and that your condition has no hope of ever improving. You will have an exam by at least one independent doctor that Social Security chooses. This person is a specialist in whatever field is required. This is to ensure Social Security that you actually have the condition that you are claiming. Most people get turned down at least 1-3 times before receiving SS Disability. Many people have to hire lawyers to help them with their claim...which is pages and pages long. Even then, many people never get approved for it...even after appeals. If it is a clear cut legitimate claim, you can receive it on the first try. I did. It took about 4 months to process my claim...which is extremely short for most claims.


If your friend is over age 65, blind, or disabled, she might qualify for Supplemental Security Income. This is for extremely low-income people...at or below the poverty level. They receive $735 a month in 2017. If they earn any income, this amount is lowered according to a guideline that SSI has...so there is no way to beat the system. Maybe this is what she is receiving.


Tell your friend that she needs to publish a book on how to receive SS early...and what is the secret to receiving a three-fold increase in disability pension! I think your friend might have personal problems that she is not telling you about.

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Old 02-22-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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Our state's pension allocation is quite a bit higher for disability retirement than standard retirement; YMMV. And, yes, many malingerers take advantage of it.
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