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Old 03-03-2017, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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They will become homeless, live under a bridge next to the railroad tracks, eat at soup kitchens they can walk, cane, walker or roll to, collect returnable cans and bottles for things they need to buy and subsist. They will get health care from medicaid IF they have someplace to get mail, like a cheap PO box, paid for with said cans and bottles.

I did it once, I guess I can do it again.

Then they will die, and be buried in "potter's Field" on the gov't dime of $250.00, IF it still exists, to not pollute waterways.

That IS already what the wealthy want to do to decrease the surplus population.

Charming future isn't it?

I have been reading your posts, and I have nothing but respect and admiration for the resilience and resourcefulness you have demonstrated in meeting extreme adversity and coming through it. You have been to the depths as I have not and you have much to teach us.


However, I have to disagree with your sentence which I bolded. First, there is no such thing as what "the wealthy" want because the wealthy are individuals, many individuals, and they do not all agree on everything, any more than "the poor" agree on everything amongst themselves.


In the light of what you have gone through, I can understand a certain amount of bitterness. But demonizing the wealthy is frequently inaccurate and based on nothing but resentment. Certain wealthy individuals (Bill Gates is only one example) have gone to extraordinary lengths to benefit humanity with their wealth.
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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It's not as hard as you think.

1) You get a subsidized senior apartment that costs 30% of what you make and that's all bills paid.

2) You apply for SNAP.

3) You apply for Medicaid. They pay your Medicare premium and function as your secondary insurance. This leaves you with all medical free, even prescriptions.

4) Having Medicaid and SNAP opens all the food banks for your use. Between this and SNAP, almost all your food needs are met. And Meals on Wheels will deliver 7 frozen dinners a week right to your door.

5) SNAP gives you a free cellphone.

Using that $880 per month amount, the apartment would cost you right about $250 per month. Then add in $30 per month for a senior bus pass. What else would you NEED? Especially since your food is taken care of? Maybe a few bucks a month for stuff like soap, TP, and paper towels. And maybe $100 per year for clothes. So lets say total expenses are $350. That leaves you with $500 per month free and clear to spend as you please. There a lot of people who see less money than this at the end of the month!
My daughter's roommate is on SNAP, I think she gets subsidized to utilities bill too.
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Old 03-03-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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That ought to be something you think about while you're young enough to have children.

For most people in this world, it's the #1 reason that they have children.

For example, in China, the burden of supporting elders falls upon #1 Son. That's why many more sons than daughters are born there.
And I'm sure many can attest to the very real fact that having children is no guarantee that they will take care of you in your old age.
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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In today's world there are abortions.

Back in time, baby girls were killed.

They're still being killed today in some parts of the world. In India, an ultrasound is used primarily for determining the sex of an unborn child. If it's a girl, the chances are much greater of it being aborted.
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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In other words, let society pick up the tab because you failed to plan for a successful life and your eventual retirement.
I don't but there are those who do. I'm glad there is a safety net for these people. And I'm glad it's there for me if the situation changes.

My SO's cousin is the person I know who has all these bennies. He wasn't lazy. He worked for 40 years. His mistake was being born in NYC.
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Old 08-19-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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I read a new trend is seniors moving in together
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I read a new trend is seniors moving in together
That can work as long as you can rotate in younger seniors as "replacements". It doesn't help if you're the last man standing.
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Old 08-20-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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What do you think will happen to the retired population that runs out of money before they die?
They return to work?
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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or they work longer . retirement has never been a right . it has only been a privilege for those who could afford it . if you can live on your social security , great but if not you need to find something to do even if it is some kind of phone gig .

eventually like water ,everyone seeks their own level if they can't work . it just may be a lifestyle they dislike .
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Old 08-20-2017, 01:26 PM
 
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They return to work?
Pretty laughable to The Knowing
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