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Old 03-03-2017, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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"Choose on the basis of access to services and health care. You need good docs and hospitals when you are older. That is a basic thing, I think."

That is, if you plan to spend your retirement in doctors' office and hospitals. In my view, too many have been programmed to make their golden years an unending quest to extend them. I avoid doctors like the plague now and plan to continue that practice then. When it's my time to die, at least I'll have lived -- and enjoyed my life -- first. Proximity to medical facilities will not be my first priority. A gym, an ocean, a university, public transit, an airport, a dance community, a library, a hiking and biking trail, woods, theatre, ballet, a spiritual home -- yes.
Although I do not exactly "avoid doctors like the plague", I agree basically with your main idea otherwise. I just cannot help but think that if people hold the idea in their minds for many years that they are going to end up not being able to climb a flight of stairs and that they will end up running to a doctor every week, then it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy. On the other hand, if they hold a self image of being active and fit, they will continue to be physically active which then becomes the opposite self-fulfilling prophecy. Nothing is more deadly than being a couch potato, and that has to do with attitude.

Now I am not a fool, and I realize that the proper attitude and habits will not automatically guarantee any particular outcome for everybody. For example, if people live into their 90's, all bets are off and it becomes more and more likely that serious disabilities will set in before death delivers its merciful relief. The same statement may well be true for living into one's 80's, but to a somewhat lesser extent. A debilitating health event could occur at any age, really, but I am attempting to talk about an overview of an issue.

There is nothing wrong with questioning living way out in the boonies in retirement on the grounds that health care services are very remote. But the OP of this thread is considering living three miles outside of a town. Three miles! It's not like a horse and buggy would be the only transportation to doctors and hospitals. For heaven's sake!
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Imagine this scenario. You have a incident in your home. perhaps a fall, perhaps getting locked out when something is on the stove.
Yes, stuff happens (and even more likely for SERIOUS stuff to happen in countryside) waiting TOO long for aid is on my wish list so I don't have to be 'rescued' and live 20 yrs as a veg. But, as mentioned you can still SCREAM pretty loud if able. Ironically...My rural neighbor was working on his beach house (in town) and nailed his hand to a rafter with a nail gun. It took him over 4 hours to get someone to come and help him. (cut a chunk out of the rafter and head to hospital to get everything removed). My nail gun accident was far worse and very rural, but I bandaged myself up to keep the blood flow down and drove to the hospital. I had to drive my semi truck to the hospital with a chunk of rebar in my eye. Lots of dangerous things happen on farms. Neighbor kids were killed sledding (ran into a car), and 3 neighbor guys have rolled over tractors and mowers and been killed. Seems normal, as I lost several schoolmates to farm accidents. Several neighbors have bought lifetime medivac (air ambulance) policies (~ $1200 / for life for entire family / site). But... a paramedic will need to make the call. Sadly, our fire station closed and the nearest is now much farther away. The politics of rural EMS services is NEVER Practical. Fortunately one of my kids is a rural trauma specialist (I and his brother gave him LOTS of practice). I learned much from his specialized training. (and I am also EMT trained, tho hope to never again need it)


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Come back and tell us in 15 years how it's working out.
Good to think ahead. We have a volunteer role of helping rural elderly, Some make it fine into their 90's, most are fine till age 85, some wear out in their late 70's. Just have a plan... we often have to go to hospital to prove and assure social workers that we will attend recovering elderly 24x7 until they are back on their feet and able to drive. We hope to have a defined plan before age 80, (and we always have a plan cuz our own parents 'checked-out' 15 yrs younger than we are today)

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Odd presumption. I find our country neighbors extremely accommodating and very willing to help in anyway.
^^^

^^^ we do that for each other, and always have (since I was old enough to help the elderly !~ age 8 - 10), I was beside my grandfather pouring sidewalks, building ramps, handrails, and improving farm access for the elderly. Still doing it!, in fact I bought a $1 hand pounding 'meat tenderizer' / hammer at a garage sale while in Australia last yr, to 'texture' / add grip to a cement ramp I was building for the elderly there. Same way I textured concrete at age 8! (Thanx for the training Gramps! )
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:44 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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"Choose on the basis of access to services and health care. You need good docs and hospitals when you are older. That is a basic thing, I think."

That is, if you plan to spend your retirement in doctors' office and hospitals. In my view, too many have been programmed to make their golden years an unending quest to extend them. I avoid doctors like the plague now and plan to continue that practice then. When it's my time to die, at least I'll have lived -- and enjoyed my life -- first. Proximity to medical facilities will not be my first priority. A gym, an ocean, a university, public transit, an airport, a dance community, a library, a hiking and biking trail, woods, theatre, ballet, a spiritual home -- yes.
I live in a city and have almost all those items in your list.
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Old 03-04-2017, 03:00 AM
 
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Peace and quiet for me.
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Old 03-04-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Long Neck , DE
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choose your neighborhood wisely.

a new neighbor from hxll with dirt bikes and shooting 24x7 can become a nightmare in the countryside.
Very true..We had a vacation home we intended to retire to when the time came. Nice home on 5 acres a few miles from town. Neighbor decided he wanted to try growing a couple of pigs. Put the pen right on the property border line.
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Old 03-04-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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"Choose on the basis of access to services and health care. You need good docs and hospitals when you are older. That is a basic thing, I think."

That is, if you plan to spend your retirement in doctors' office and hospitals. In my view, too many have been programmed to make their golden years an unending quest to extend them. I avoid doctors like the plague now and plan to continue that practice then. When it's my time to die, at least I'll have lived -- and enjoyed my life -- first. Proximity to medical facilities will not be my first priority. A gym, an ocean, a university, public transit, an airport, a dance community, a library, a hiking and biking trail, woods, theatre, ballet, a spiritual home -- yes.
When you are old you cannot afford to avoid doctors. My DH has had to have several surgical procedures since he retired. I have had one. Avoiding doctors does not prevent bad health outcomes. That is magical thinking.

Even if you do not have a medical issue for 10 years, you could have an emergency once that wo
Uod need to be attended to quickly. It is best to accept that as older folks, we will probably need more frequent medical assistance. And don't forget dental assistance.
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Old 03-04-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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When you are old you cannot afford to avoid doctors. My DH has had to have several surgical procedures since he retired. I have had one. Avoiding doctors does not prevent bad health outcomes. That is magical thinking.

Even if you do not have a medical issue for 10 years, you could have an emergency once that wo
Uod need to be attended to quickly. It is best to accept that as older folks, we will probably need more frequent medical assistance. And don't forget dental assistance.
No you can't, but that is not the point. The point is to not center your life on medical care. It is not easy for me to go to the doc because for one thing, I don't have a regular doc, and for another thing the nearest clinic is 30 minutes away and it is hard to get an appointment. So I pretty much don't go.

I had a terrible ear ache a couple of weeks ago and probably would have gone to the doc but because it was so hard, I didn't. Ear ache went away and all is fine. And then I gashed my arm in the yard and should have gotten stitches but didn't. It healed and all is fine. But if I have something serious I will probably go in and have it looked at. But there is a lot of low level stuff that I figure, what's the point?
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Old 03-04-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I am basically asking for advice about selecting a retirement home. If the choice is between a secluded property with a nice view three miles outside of town, and a "so-so" home in town with no view, which would you suggest, and why?

(We are introverts to whom peace and quiet is VERY important, but we also want to be practical.)
It's only three miles out of town for goodness sake. Buy the secluded property with the nice view and enjoy your life. I don't believe your retirement years should be the time to compromise unless the compromise is between you and your spouse.
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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No you can't, but that is not the point. The point is to not center your life on medical care. It is not easy for me to go to the doc because for one thing, I don't have a regular doc, and for another thing the nearest clinic is 30 minutes away and it is hard to get an appointment. So I pretty much don't go.

I had a terrible ear ache a couple of weeks ago and probably would have gone to the doc but because it was so hard, I didn't. Ear ache went away and all is fine. And then I gashed my arm in the yard and should have gotten stitches but didn't. It healed and all is fine. But if I have something serious I will probably go in and have it looked at. But there is a lot of low level stuff that I figure, what's the point?
Try that with appendicitis and see how far you get.
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I didn't know we've been discussing just about 3 miles. Is this a serious question?
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