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Old 03-12-2017, 03:00 AM
 
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I am not an artist and I am not really into art either, so perhaps I can answer what the unwashed such as myself get out of the experience of "wondering through" art museums. What I get is a chance to admire and enjoy great beauty and impressive mastery...... I don't get modern art...... .
This is certainly off the topic, but I am intrigued by your statement. I know from your many previous posts that you are anything but "unwashed". You have a great deal of interest to say.


I wonder have you ever been curious about modern or contemporary art? Clearly a lot of art, modern or otherwise, is NOT about beauty or showing off technical mastery. It often takes more than wondering or wandering to make sense out of something different. It just seems incredible that so many people just don't bother to try to understand what art is about and why mankind has spent so many hours in its pursuit. Of course there is another way besides study. You can pick up a brush or select another medium and try to communicate artistically. It does not take long to become absorbed and to start to see what different artists have tried to communicate.
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Old 03-12-2017, 03:08 AM
 
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You live longer if you are active. I'm trying to limit the time we sit down and surf the net.
I think there is a lot more to it than that. We are thinking animals and it is becoming clear that using that capacity helps to prevent dementia, forgetfulness, and declining mental ability. Some people may not care or may not find the benefits worth the exertion. That is certainly their choice.
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Old 03-12-2017, 03:15 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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You can be VERY active in volunteer / community benefit. Pick your passion and go after it.

I was not retired, but really enjoyed helping a local National Park site create a heritage Orchard and Heirloom Garden. I have had some great volunteer museum Docents and City / venue tour guides lately (in the last week). Nature parks, camps, music and drama venues, teaching, mentoring... Many, many ways to engage.

Since I am an inventor and engineer, I like to spend time at incubator spaces helping young innovators turn their dreams into products. Writing grants for infrastructure development...

All very tangible and applicable / useful.

Passive varies by individual. To me, it is something like TV (but not to all). I watched my last TV program in 1968 and realized THAT was too passive for me. I see some people get very active / engaged in TV, OK, that is fine for them, just not in my realm at the moment, or for last 50 yrs. But.... I could definitely be more active!!! It has been over 30 yrs since I took a 100 mile bicycle trip in the mtns, 30 yrs since a multiday camping hike, but at least I can still swim a few miles in one trek. (swimming is EZ, ).
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I try to be Active by walking.

I bought a pedometer and a shelter dog chose me. She loves to go for a walk. In fact, she won't let me forget. She'll "nose" me out of my chair. She jumps up when she hears the leash drawer open.

We aim for 10,000 steps per day. We can usually do it if the weather cooperates. She loves it.

Get a dog. A dog can truly be your best friend. She might just save your life.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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I'm capable of walking, playing golf, volunteering, etc. without the need for a dog to remind me.

We had dogs when we worked; the last dear one lived 17 years. It worked out well...we didn't travel much in our jobs, so someone was always there at 6AM and 6PM and all weekend.

We always thought we'd get another dog or two when we retired, but we had and have a pent up demand for foreign travel. And now that we're retired, instead of going away for a week, we tend to go away for months at a time (that's the beauty of retirement).

Please consider your lifestyle before getting a pet. Quite frankly they can be an albatross. We have friends with dogs and there's always the issue when we try to plan a trip with them (or even an overnight at a nice B&B)....while some places accept dogs, most of the nicer places do not. Then there's the issue of what to do with their dog during the day when on a trip. We like to go to museums, etc. where pets are not welcome.

Two of our dog-owning friends admit they made a mistake when they got their pets....they are good people and won't take them back to shelters, but they do resent their pets from time to time as they infringe on their desire to travel.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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I don't think OP's intent was to chastise anyone for not being more active or not being active according to his/her definition. These boards are just a way to share our ideas, ask questions, get some input, etc. I do think it's worth considering this question. There is not one set way to be retired...or at least not one single way that everyone would enjoy. But let's admit that a lot of us are not living optimally healthy lives. Baby boomers may live longer than their parents, but with less vitality. Some of that may be due to diet, but there is also the physical activity component:

"Boomers were also more inactive, with 52 percent of them reporting a sedentary lifestyle with no physical activity, compared with only 17.4 percent of the previous generation."Baby boomers unhealthier than their parents' generation, study says - CBS News

And let's be honest. Most of us are staring at screens for many more hours than we used to, be it television/computer/phones. There's no getting around that TV watching is a passive activity. Occasionally there may be opportunity to cast a vote or so, but studies do show that brain activity diminishes with TV watching (just as it increases with physical activity). It even seems that younger people who watch a lot of TV will do less well on cognitive tests 25 years later in midlife!

http://www.livescience.com/52959-tel...-function.html

I do think it's worth having this reminder that there is more to life than just passive entertainment. For some of us it may make us uncomfortable since it hits close to home, just as I was dismayed to learn that my lifestyle isn't considered all that active even though I exercise two hours a day.
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Old 03-12-2017, 07:53 AM
 
Location: R.I.
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I hear lots of people talking about the need to "be active", get out of the house and "do things". Unfortunately, I tend to take things literally and am often disappointed when I realize that others are not really talking about activities but are more interested in watching others do things. I happy to go to concerts and plays and even some spectator sports or an occasional flea market, but I think it is more important to actually do things. I am trying to spend way more time in what I "do" instead of what I "watch". Doing things allows us to learn, create, grow and accomplish. Passively watching can be enjoyable but involves none of those.
For many individuals including myself, the life we lived that proceeded retirement was very active and we accomplished a great deal either through work or raising a family. Many of us look forward to retirement when we can finally transition from a life of a human doing to a life of a human being.

When I retire this will follow a nearly 50 year career in the nursing profession which was a very physically, mentally, and emotionally demanding career path and I accomplished more career goals than I ever thought possible. In addition to my career I was a member of multiple clubs of various interests, showed my dogs in conformation, volunteered for my local breed rescue, and even taught doll sculpting classes. Even with all my career and outside activities I managed travel to most every state in this country, been on 20 cruises, and have traveled to most of the parts of the world that were of interest to me. What I did not get to do all these years was stop and smell the roses growing in my own backyard. And I look very forwarded to a retirement spent as a rose smeller, because I have found for me personally with each passing year the less I do and the more I just be enhances my wellbeing.
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: ☀️ SWFL ⛱ 🌴
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For many individuals including myself, the life we lived that proceeded retirement was very active and we accomplished a great deal either through work or raising a family. Many of us look forward to retirement when we can finally transition from a life of a human doing to a life of a human being.

When I retire this will follow a nearly 50 year career in the nursing profession which was a very physically, mentally, and emotionally demanding career path and I accomplished more career goals than I ever thought possible. In addition to my career I was a member of multiple clubs of various interests, showed my dogs in conformation, volunteered for my local breed rescue, and even taught doll sculpting classes. Even with all my career and outside activities I managed travel to most every state in this country, been on 20 cruises, and have traveled to most of the parts of the world that were of interest to me. What I did not get to do all these years was stop and smell the roses growing in my own backyard. And I look very forwarded to a retirement spent as a rose smeller, because I have found for me personally with each passing year the less I do and the more I just be enhances my wellbeing.
You have a great outlook.

Being content with a life you have may not be achieved by some, no matter how much they cram into their lives. It comes down to those quiet moments of introspection to know a life is being well lived and fulfilled. That is being active to me and it transcends what you are doing or not doing.

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Old 03-12-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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I would read "active" as beyond healthful movement and more as "active engagement with the world." This could take many forms.

In some Eastern traditions, there are phases in life. After the family raising phase, one (at least the men) are supposed to become more monkish, contemplatives.

I am in an odd position, since my job (night shifts in psych hospitals) has not been so "active" but very stressful and socially isolating in its own way. I have taken what trips I want to take and find it more important to stop working than to have the extra money for significant travel. That is how I noticed that the only trips I keep taking are out West, therefore have made plans to move out West.

Will I be "active?" I aim to, to try and push back the stress damage and exhaustion of my work years. I will be actively searching out volunteer activities to meet people and become part of the community. Will it bother me to stay in for days at a time with my old dogs if it's too cold or if I just feel like it? That'll be fine, too. I have many unread books and I'll have a nice view out my windows so won't feel shut in.

Exercise-wise (which I used to do before the night shifts got to me) will be swimming and weights, with some walking, and horseback riding in season. It'll be a haul to get conditioned- I've never been this reconditioned but I know recovery is possible and ideal for sturdy aging.
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Old 03-12-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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I wonder have you ever been curious about modern or contemporary art? Clearly a lot of art, modern or otherwise, is NOT about beauty or showing off technical mastery. It often takes more than wondering or wandering to make sense out of something different. It just seems incredible that so many people just don't bother to try to understand what art is about and why mankind has spent so many hours in its pursuit. Of course there is another way besides study. You can pick up a brush or select another medium and try to communicate artistically. It does not take long to become absorbed and to start to see what different artists have tried to communicate.
I think of modern/contemporary art like I do golf.

I'm sure I can spend time looking for and finding interesting aspects to each, but I don't have enough interest in either to spend that time looking for/finding that interesting aspect. To each his own.
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