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Old 08-17-2017, 02:10 PM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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In 1993, I went to an American Airlines weekend seminar for people who are afraid to fly. I learned some useful techniques but almost didn't make the graduation flight SJC - LAX - SJC.

Thanks to that seminar, I was able to fly back from London in 1995 aboard BA Concorde. Wow, what a let-down when we got to JFK and realized we'd be on a "slow" jet back to California.

I stopped flying for good about 15 years ago. I was 48. The anti-fear techniques no longer worked for me. Just couldn't take the hassles and aggravation any more, not to mention the non-stop worrying for weeks before.

Several airlines offer fear of flying courses. I would recommend it to anyone who is battling flying fear. You may have better long-term results than I did.

Now I either drive my van -- which is heaven on earth, but leisurely -- or I book an Amtrak sleeper. I have about $2,200 in Amtrak credits that I need to use in the next 12 months.

If I take the van, I can get some work done while resting from adventures.

But on Amtrak, I can fall asleep in Sacramento and wake up in Klamath Falls. I still get a kick out of that after all these years.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:19 PM
Location: Wasilla, AK
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I just flew from Tucson to Anchorage yesterday. Flying is part of life if you live in Alaska. I don't have any problems with it.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by astrohip View Post
Flying is no big deal. Get TSA-Pre, or Global Entry, or Clear, and sail thru security.

Sure, I try to get aisle seating, because as you say, the bathroom breaks are a little more often. But for the most part, flying is not an issue.

I fly a lot for work and nearly always Southwest. They've been great for the most part and if not, I shoot them a Twitter. My dad (88) still flies to see me sometimes (when my brother doesn't drive him). The airport here lets me go to the gate with him to wait. I HATE driving long distance. I'll fly always. I did get to fly with one of the local sports teams on the private plane and that nearly ruined me for commercial flights.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:35 PM
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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I am 65 and I have heart disease, as well as a few other health problems.
When I have flown in the past I have a wheelchair and pusher, they get you through security very quickly and they help you with it.
My problem comes with the flight itself and cabin pressure. I am okay in flights up to an hour or so, but I start having heart problems, shortness of breath, pain etc. after about an hour. So no longer flights for me or I could end up having a heart attack and perhaps having the plane need to make an emergency landing. Not something I would want for myself or for the other passengers.
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:36 PM
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Not to be pessimistic or overly-dramatic, but my 93 year old neighbor flew to California to visit relatives, and died immediately after the trip. I really think the stressors and flying conditions listed in many of the posts above caused her demise to happen when it did.
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Old 08-17-2017, 04:06 PM
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Not yet, but the day may come and it would be a pity, as my children don't live near me. It's hard to get Salt Lake City and the Bay Area from Denmark by public transit
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Old 08-17-2017, 04:11 PM
Location: Arizona
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I no longer fly. Nothing to do with age, health or fear of flying. Just tired of flying and the aggravation you have to put up with.
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Old 08-17-2017, 05:58 PM
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I gave up flying a few years ago, as I don't feel comfortable at 85, to fly solo anymore, or with someone like my wife who does not know how to take over and get us down safe if there is an emergency and I am unable to keep us in the air safely.
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Old 08-17-2017, 07:01 PM
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I no longer fly. Nothing to do with age, health or fear of flying. Just tired of flying and the aggravation you have to put up with.
My first career was being a flight attendant. I did that for 14 years. I am now past my 2nd career and full retirement age, and working my 3rd "career". I HATE flying today. Why?

One reason is the TSA. They are a worthless waste of national funds. They don't do what they are supposed to do, (heighten airport security), they waste our time as passengers, and they are generally thuggish in their mentality and approach. I will admit, some do try harder to make what they do more agreeable, and it is a thankless task. It just really annoys me that it is such an intrusive procedure, and expensive to us as passengers, for little or no added security benefit. I think that whole approach is a shame.

Another reason is that the airlines have turned into flying buses. Small seat pitch (the distance between rows) so that airlines can fit more passengers in the planes greatly contributes to uncomfortable flights for passengers. When I was young, I hated narrow rows. Today, they are downright painful and debilitating.

So, today, if I can get where I'm going some other way - I do.

I don't blame the airlines, nor airline management for the current shape of the industry. They need to do what they need to do to make a buck. Airline CEO's are not like some other industry CEO's - making millions in pay while their employees (or customers) are struggling to pay the mortgage. Last I heard they were not paid at those obscenely high levels. Point is, airlines' profits are really tight.

I do fault our government, and our acquiescence as citizens to the intrusive, expensive, and ineffective airport screening. That screening adds to the cost of your ticket - you are paying for it.

Ah, well, I should calm down now. Deep breaths, and again . . .

So I don't like flying today. But it has less to do with the problems of age than it does with the problems of being an airline in today's world.
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Old 08-17-2017, 07:25 PM
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