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Old 09-10-2017, 08:00 PM
Location: Middle of the ocean
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Originally Posted by jaminhealth View Post
Again, it is not a given. For as "unproven" there are a lot of MD's across the U.S. and other countries who do the PRP/Stem Cells. If one can afford this work and not excited about a knee replacement surgery here is a "partial" list of providers. I know a few in CA who are not on the list, so I say partial.

Find Regenerative Medicine Doctors - GetProlo.com

If it works for a person, it can save a lot of aging.

Using a walker may be fine for you as a choice, but for many, that is not acceptable if it can be avoided.
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:02 PM
Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by Mikala43 View Post
Using a walker may be fine for you as a choice, but for many, that is not acceptable if it can be avoided.

One never knows how the outcome will be, right Mikala. No guarantees and I often regret the hip replacement as I do live with a mess and YES I was an unlucky one, I guess. No other way to think it thru, sloppy work by surgeon or just one of the unlucky ones or both.

I have a tough time going back to "cut the body" again. So maybe the walker is good for my life at this point anyway. Others who are much younger for starters need to do what feels right for them.

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Old 09-10-2017, 09:17 PM
Location: Southern California
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PRP Injections - Why Not covered by insurance.


I believe IF given enough injections PRP can really do a good job, so good that it could cut out many of the surgeries done today at the HIGH COSTS of these surgeries, patient downtime, hospitals, rehabs etc etc etc. Makes a lot of sense in my mind. Many could be losing money from all the surgeries that are no longer done.

The last paragraph of the link talks about Emory Univ. assisting patients to get these PRP injections who cannot afford to do them.

It's all a scheme to keep surgeries alive and continuing on.

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Old 09-10-2017, 09:19 PM
Location: South Florida
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Originally Posted by margaretBartle View Post
Not true. I'm pushing 70, and am twice the woman I used to be (at least on the scales!) and I'm having a wonderful life with friends and family that support me , and I love being with them.

That was not true when I was young and svelte. Instead, I had a bunch of strangers trying to hit on me, and I had to walk around with a psychic brick wall around me.

Now, I am able to relax and be happy around men, laugh out loud, be as bawdy or formal as I want to be, and I don't have to worry about ulterior motives.

If the only thing you are trying to do when you're young is to be an ornament, then, yeah, when you get old, you are pretty useless. If you've spent a lifetime learning to be useful and doing intersting things and meeting interesting people, and you've focused on keeping yourself and the people around you healthy and happy, there is no reason life shouldn't get better as you age.
Ditto to everything you said.
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nuala View Post
To answer the original question, the nature will help you in getting over it. Presbyopia kicks in after the age 40 (loss of near focusing ability), - so you won't be able to see your own fine lines, blemishes, and uneven brows. (lol). Then your waist will increase, so you will shift to elastic waists/larger sizes. Then your skin will get drier and drier, so you will either be hunting for creams, or, alternatively, kicking up your fitness regimen. The level of laziness will also increase, so it is not known what will win - the couch or the gym. Then the lumps of cellulite will calcify under your skin and will not leave, even if you try to lose weight (you might end up as a skeleton with lumps of fat). You will want to start having more frequent naps, so you will have less daytime to think of all those things though. See, it all will be gradual and painless.
At 68, I'm still waiting for the dry skin, laziness, and propensity to nap to kick in.
Otherwise, yep. Well, except presbyopia didn't happen until about 60 - and it was offset by improved distance vision.
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Old 09-10-2017, 10:19 PM
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Menopause for me was a nothingburger, other than hot flashes. A good central AC system helped diminish the impact.

I'm 68 y.o. and look every minute of my age. No cosmetic surgery or interventions of any kind, and I quit coloring my hair in 2007. It's totally white. I have saggy jowls, a burgeoning turkey wattle, hooded eyelids, and major marionette lines.
I'm enough overweight to keep my husband and primary doc (neither of whom like skinny women) happy. Not yet gone enough to run screaming from full-length mirrors but that might be in the works. My dark eyebrows and lashes are good, as are my teeth. My one best asset these days, going by comments I receive, might be my smile.

When I was in my teens, 20's, 30's, and 40's, I was gorgeous - body, face, hair - by most standards. Yet I incessantly checked and worried about my looks, was on the constant prowl for clothes and cosmetics that flattered.
Much - most, actually - of that time I was miserably obsessed with my appearance. Now I'm not. It's as simple as that. I do maintain a stylish haircut and apply light make-up every day so as not to frighten young children.
I love being old. My only regret is that old age is whizzing by so fast and will be over too soon.
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:50 AM
Location: colorado springs, CO
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I'm 49 & I've been afraid of looking older for about 13 years.

Call me vain if you wish but there is another angle to this issue.

As a child I believed I was "pretty". My parents really downplayed it; I remember being complimented for being smart ... or talented. Or, "looking pretty" in a new Easter dress.

But my mom told me that girls who thought they were prettier than others were ugly on the inside & she wouldn't tolerate any "comparing". By the time I was a teenager I was already conditioned to be somewhat unaware of my appearance.

I assumed I was likable as a person. I thought catcalls & whistles were true compliments & I would smile & say "Thank You!" I didn't understand what people meant when they said "I'm surprised at how nice you are!" I was truly flattered by every nice thing that someone said or did; I didn't understand what people meant when they would snort & say "I'll bet!" when I'd tell them about how well I was treated.

I didn't understand when I heard "He just wants to ..." because I really thought people liked me ... for me. I was never afraid to go anywhere at any time dressed in whatever way. "What am I asking for?" "Why would anyone want to hurt me when everybody is always so nice to me?"

I was blissfully oblivious, for the first 36 years of my life, until I agreed to a medical, surgical procedure that confused my whole body. I was first aware that something was "off" within 4 months; I was gaining weight & my face was subtly changing. My hair started falling out & the texture changed. My moods became volatile, I developed anxiety & was quick to anger.

I couldn't sing anymore without my voice cracking.

Within that year; I started becoming ... invisible.

By the time I realized, 10 years later, what might be causing this? I was 80 lbs overweight. Suffered bone-crushing fatigue, depression, anxiety. My anemia had become life-threatening.

I feel like I must have gone 4 years without looking anybody in the eyes because I didn't want to see them seeing me. I didn't want to see anybody I used to know because they might recognize me.

This unfortunately happened once, about 7 years into this horrible decade, when I ran into the friend of an ex-BF who I hadn't seen for over 10 years. He said "Hey! Is that ...you? OMG ... what happened! OMG ... has life been that hard on you?"

I will never forget that.

Luckily; my surgery was reversible & literally within hours out of the recovery room ... I started feeling like ME again. It's been 3 years now & it's taken 9 blood transfusions & 2 additional surgeries to repair the damage done. I haven't lost all the weight but I have most of it. I can sing again ... And I'm no longer invisible.

But what's sad to me is that now I've seen this issue backwards & forwards ... And I wonder ... was I wrong? Was everybody else right? Do I have nothing else going for me? What if all the positive validation I've ever received had an agenda behind it?

I still am too much of a Pollyanna to accept this wholeheartedly. I tell myself that I was so sick that my "light' was dimming. That as I now age naturally, that I will still shine from within.

Originally Posted by matisse12 View Post
One of the biggest scandals around and most unethical practices is carrying out very unnecessary hysterectomies on women. There are many articles (and books) on the rampant exploitation of women having hysterectomies when they are uncalled for - just so gynecological surgeons can make money and continue their medical practice. (just googling it will bring up info on this practice & scandal)
Thank you for bringing this up! Despite the urging of more than one doctor; I emerged from my ten years in hell with all my "hysteria" still inconveniently (for them) intact.

Originally Posted by Escort Rider View Post
I see nothing wrong with younger people being interested in aging issues. We older folks should be flattered that our opinions and experiences are being sought out. The OP raised an interesting and valid topic of discussion; it doesn't matter how old she is.
I'm not the OP & not 31 either ...But the reason I come here a lot at age 49? Is because my preferred programming has always been Documentaries vs the Soap Operas.
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Old 09-11-2017, 01:32 AM
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Three things.

First, it helps if one finds an age of mind and stays here.

Secondly, people compliment me on my energy but that energy is derived out of two, well maybe three, situations. The first is that the bursts are focused. That when they are needed, a boost is added in. Secondly, they are often entwined into some kind of fantasy situation, a view. When I am dancing, for example, and I need additional power, I engage unicorn power in that as a unicorn, I am a creature of the Earth, of Sol, and I can pull on unlimited energy of the cosmos (to destroy a unicorn, one has to essentially destroy the solar system). Three, my sexual energy is dumped into how I relate to people.

Three, be who you want to be when you want to be. As "Atalanta", I am my age, an older witch, but as "Ushas", I am immortally young and am the counterpart to Atalanta. There are, however, at least two catches to this.

The first is that one has to "write" their fantasy story so it can mesh effectively with reality. I dance, for example, as Ushas but I certainly don't do splits like Ushas. Secondly, for all the alter mind one may be, one must remember, that it is still on one body, the older body. I may push myself in the dance studio like a 20 year old but the next morning........
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:08 AM
Location: Kennett Square, PA
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Originally Posted by Sand&Salt View Post
Thanks, I appreciate it, Soulsurv. Been this route, paleo, Naturopath. I'm glad it worked for you, but did zilch for me. I'm not on any meds. That's terrific you got the use of your hands back! Congrats.

I was all-organic for many years, at great expense. No diff. Down here, just winging it.
So sorry, Sand&Salt. If nothing else, see if you can look up my main supplement: PERNA PLUS by DaVinci Laboratories. Can't hurt. I know for me, weather is an issue: super-cold and/or highly-humid days I still feel pain. Today, it's a low-humid, crisp morning in SE PA, and I always feel best this time of year. DON'T GIVE UP! XO
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CSD610 View Post
The alternative to getting older is death, which is more appealing to you?
Exactly - 50 is when your friends, relatives, college buddies start passing.

50 was hard on me, even though I was sitting at Jules Verne's restaurant in the Eiffel Tower having a wonderful meal. It was all I could focus on.

I lost a lot of family and friends in my 50's.

60 this year - went on a cruise. Didn't care, too busy, what good would it do. At least I"m alive and in good health. And took care of myself. I'm glad I don't get the attraction I once got from men. I got one to please and that is all I need.

Hubs just turned 70 - he said he feels good being 70 as he had too many health problems to be in his 60's.
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