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Old 09-11-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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For me menopause meant hot flashes, and they really suck. Especially when you live in the tropics. Nothing like waking up in bed no sheets or blankets, A/C set at 70 and being soaking wet. My Mom had no symptoms.

I had a hysterectomy (left ovaries) and I couldn't be happier. It was after trying a bunch of other stuff that didn't work.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Male here. I always knew, and this thread has reconfirmed it, that we men are truly fortunate in not having to deal with menstrual periods. The ten minutes required for daily shaving gets old, but that is absolutely nothing compared to what you women have to deal with, even if you are fortunate enough that menopause is a non-event. My deepest sympathies to all of you.

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Old 09-11-2017, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I can't question other women's choices, nor can I evaluate the validity of their suffering. I can only say that menopause was an absolute nightmare for me. And I sympathize with everyone out there who survived it one way or another.

Like many women, I went through the worst of it during my prime working years. I dealt with horrendous, excessive bleeding every month, brain fog, sleeplessness and hot flashes that were NOT just sweating - I felt, literally, on fire. I resisted any form of hormone intervention but did use some herbs that I got from my naturopath. They helped a little. My step sister simply couldn't cope and took HRT. She ended up getting a very severe form of breast cancer and learned, only later, that this may have been the cause.

Some women get lucky and menopause is a non-event. For the rest of us it's a difficult stage of life that, thankfully, doesn't last forever.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:54 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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I am still young certainly, but have to admit I worry about getting older. Call me vain but while I know I am no super model by any means, it is something I think about.
How old are you?

Since childhood, I knew that I was attractive, however even when I was a teenager, I never fussed with my looks. And at college and right afterwards, I didn't do much with makeup, except a little eyeliner when going out at night. I did like to get dressed up. For me that was more skinny jeans or leather pants, boots and a t-shirt with a leather jacket. I've always hated high heels.

Anyway, I've always focused on the inner me. I was never interested in dating a man that was only attracted to my looks. So now I am almost 59 years old and married to a man that is 36 years old. I am not worried about losing him to a younger woman since what he loves most about me is my brain and personality. I also stay active. Even the type of work I do is physically demanding and I'm running around all day on my feet except for my meal break.

And I am vain too, but only about my IQ.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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At 52, I don't care at all about looking 35 but I do want to look like the best 52 year old out there.

I run, yoga, lift weights, drink lots of water, eat clean, dye my hair but don't do plastic surgery or botox.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:08 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Also, for most of my adult life, I didn't pay attention to my age. I refuse to be defined by a number. I also have friends of all ages and sexes. I think it a mistake to only have friends of the same age and sex, because it's all too easy to fall into a cycle of comparing oneself to others of the same age (and sex).

And because I have some really good guy friends that I share the same hobbies and interests with, I am even less concerned about my looks (because they like my company and my looks aren't a part of their feelings towards me). But I used to have a female manager that really irritated me, because when she wanted a male worker to do a task for her, she'd giggle and bat her eyelashes at him... as if that would make him want to do the job for her as a special favour, just for her. I thought that a really terrible management style. I'm so glad that she's gone!!!
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I see death all the time.
All ages, too.

So I always think that getting old is great. Because it beats the hell out of the alternative.
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Old 09-12-2017, 03:56 AM
 
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I suspect that plenty of women spend an equivalent, or greater, amount of time shaving other parts than the face.

For some reason, women's shaving is a taboo subject, at least in the U.S. Although I personally see nothing wrong with the perfectly natural body hair most women have, and that some women possess in quantity - most people act like we are all supposed to think women have perfectly hairless bodies without any effort. Based on my observations, this is far from the case.

I don't know enough to say whether the "I don't care any more" effect of women's aging, which many women on this thread claim to enjoy, extends to no longer shaving their legs and other hair areas.

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Male here. I always knew, and this thread has reconfirmed it, that we men are truly fortunate in not having to deal with menstrual periods. The ten minutes required for daily shaving gets old, but that is absolutely nothing compared to what you women have to deal with, even if you are fortunate enough that menopause is a non-event. My deepest sympathies to all of you.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Most women have spent INORDINATE amounts of time throughout their life grooming...whether it is hair removal, hair styling, bathing (can't have ANY natural scent you know!), applying makeup, selecting/buying makeup and hair styling products, etc. The wasted money and time and psychic energy is amazing.

I truly think we are socialized (some more successfully than others) that way to divert us from more "masculine" pursuits to lessen the competition men face. I know, too political, but when you look back over the years it seems clear. And it all served to INCREASE the competition with other women, so yet another diversion from what is truly important in life.

At some point it is such a relief to say "the hell with it"...yeah, some of us say we were so smart we never bought into it - but most of us admit to some participation.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:51 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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I haven't shaved my legs since... almost back to my college days. Just not a fan of the stubble which IMO feels worse than having a little hair there.

Anyway, my MIL has a very annoying expression... "a woman's face is her fortune" and I highly disagree with that. Had I had daughters, I would never tell them that. My mother never said it to me, and I think that the phrase really cripples most women in life AND then makes then very highly insecure about themselves once their youthful looks start to fade.
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