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Old 09-22-2017, 03:37 PM
 
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I've been teaching my eldest kid who is Grade 7 about retirement. The purpose of retirement is to be able to start on it right away so one is best prepared. It did not occur to me some people would think of this thread as for retired people only (though I am semi-retired since 3 years ago).
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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The "get off my lawn" syndrome?

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Amazing, I personally don't have any problems with anything anyone posts on here, I'm not retired yet, but will be 60 in a few weeks, so I figure I am or ought to be "part of the gang". I *think* about retirement. Some external issue may force it on me sooner than I want or expect, and figure I ought to be ready for that if it happens.

I have seen a few "carping" posts directed at some of the younger people who post on here occasionally. I don't agree with the idea that one needs to be "older than X" to post thoughts for discussion, essentially everyone will retire, if they don't die or get killed first. If someone wants to think and discuss things 30 or more years down the road for them, what's wrong with that?

My own approach to ideas that I think are wrong, out of touch with reality, dumb, whatever - by all means, get them out into the sunlight, where they can die like vampires! Censoring bad ideas allows them to remain active in the shadows, not good. And sometimes ideas that I didn't like at first glance look better after some open discussion.

There have been some threads that I thought were sort of inane, but, like ER, I simply don't click on them. What's inane to me may not be to someone else.

In any case, supporting free speech, liberty, and libertarian-ism (as I define it) is much more important than trying to avoid anyone being offended (which is in itself impractical.)
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:15 PM
 
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Thanks for posting this, ER. I am always dismayed to see the accusatory "What does this have to do with retirement" comment. Or worse "Why is this 31-year-old posting here". Shame on you criticizers!


Let's lighten up and be welcoming, for heaven's sake. And since there isn't another senior forum, let's welcome all topics related to that. No wonder the young 'uns think we're all crotchety and exclusive.


SHEESH!
I agree. I may be one considered to "not belong" as I am 54 next Monday.

But: I have been early medically retired and on SSDI for 14 years. I have recently gone back to work part time, it's about all I can handle. It's to boost my SSDI forced long as I can work and keep it, and my eventual SS.

When I first posted something here, I too wondered did I belong? But I do.

As pointed out there are issues for my own retirement and my remaining father and FIL, and their retirement.

It's sad that this entire country is getting to a "clique " mentality of belonging and not belonging. I thought this was relatively a young persons "disease" but I see it covers the older, assumably gentler populace.

Also, some on these fora are millionaires, who don't believe the minimum wagers belong anywhere here.

I enjoy all the fora herewith, and don't think a discrimination of any sort belongs.

People, we are ALL people, and need to treat each other BETTER, like the Hippocratic oath for doctors says " first, do no harm "...practice it daily in all human dealings and perhaps this would be a better world!!

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Old 09-22-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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sounds to me (correct me if I'm wrong) that the mod was saying that the retirement forum has the most reports of 'off topic'.


ER was voicing his surprise at this. There's a whole lot of forums here. For the Retirement one to have the most 'off topic' reports makes us sound like a bunch of crotchedy old sticks in the mud.

And there's a lot of comments about someone being too young to post on the retirement forum, like there's a minimum age requirement.

His attitude/request is that the posters here lighten up and not be so narrow-mindedly snooty.


if that's the gist of his post, I agree.
Twelve years ago it was a lot more normal to not be retired and to be posting and reading in here about people dreaming and planning retirement. Over the years it has played out differently for folks and newer especially older folks have come on board. Not sure the current audience is as comfortable reading about some other folks reality.

I will say the great recession and resulting housing meltdown, market crash and job loss has played a major role in shaping how retirement ended up playing out for many people. I could see a difference pre and post 2008/09 between the economic crisis and the election results.
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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The "get off my lawn" syndrome?
I think this sums it up. Too many old ( thinking ) people here. I saw it in spades on the recent landline thread. Sadly many people over 70 are intolerant of new ideas or change even if is useful or makes sense
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: ☀️ SWFL ⛱ 🌴
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My surprise comes from the Retirement board being more of a problem than Politics and other Controversies board to moderators. I would have never guessed that.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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My surprise comes from the Retirement board being more of a problem than Politics and other Controversies board to moderators. I would have never guessed that.


That is funny!!!
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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One of the two senior moderators posted a very interesting comment a few days ago in the About the Forum forum in a now closed thread entitled "Modify forum name to 'retirement and aging'. Here is that comment in its entirety:






"In theory, perhaps, you may call it an interest. But, as a moderator, Retirement is the forum where we get the most reports based on discrimination (either age or topic). No other fora come even close: people from Retirement constantly demand we close or move threads or ban certain people from posting because they "don't belong". We really don't need to give them another reason for this kind of thinking.

Thank you for the suggestion, I understand your reasoning but unfortunately, it'd only work the way I described."






I found that both fascinating and disheartening. Just imagine - no other forum comes close to this one in the number of posters demanding that threads be closed or moved or that certain people be banned from posting because they "don't belong". It doesn't speak so well for us as a group.


My suggestion is that people try to get over their literal-mindedness in adhering narrowly to "retirement" as a topic. Ever since I've been here (since 2010) this forum has doubled as an "all things senior" forum; after all, there is no other City-Data forum which covers that terrain. If a post has a connection to aging, then let's drop the "what has this got to do with retirement?" question.


In a similar vein, I suggest that people get over objecting to posters based solely on their age; younger people should be welcome to post here, as they may be looking ahead for advice on their own retirement planning or they may be talking about issues their own parents are facing. We (collectively) shouldn't be so grouchy and grumpy and unwelcoming.


Personally I don't much care for turning the entire forum into a gigantic chat thread (as opposed to using the existing Chat Thread), but since I realize I cannot hold back the tide, I do not jump in and object. It is pretty easy for me to look at a thread title and realize it's not something I'm interested in, in which case I don't even click on the thread. An objection on my part would only add negativity without much corresponding benefit to anybody. I am suggesting more of us consider that philosophy.


In the last six months I have reported exactly one post, and I can't even remember if it was in the Retirement Forum or not. No, I am not suggesting my record of non-reporting is something to emulate; it has its reasons which I am not going to get into. But just maybe a lot of us could give more thought to our motivations for reporting posts. Just because we find a poster irritating doesn't necessarily mean that person should be banned because he or she "doesn't belong". The effort to engage in an objective, dispassionate analysis could be a good thing.


I am still shaking my head in surprise about the post by the senior moderator.
In my own mind "retirement" is a proxy for the later part of life. Most of my interest here is in the $ side of things but the aging related threads are very interesting as well.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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I agree. I may be one considered to "not belong" as I am 54 next Monday.

But: I have been early medically retired and on SSDI for 14 years. I have recently gone back to work part time, it's about all I can handle. It's to boost my SSDI forced long as I can work and keep it, and my eventual SS.

When I first posted something here, I too wondered did I belong? But I do.

As pointed out there are issues for my own retirement and my remaining father and FIL, and their retirement.

It's sad that this entire country is getting to a "clique " mentality of belonging and not belonging. I thought this was relatively a young persons "disease" but I see it covers the older, assumably gentler populace.

Also, some on these fora are millionaires, who don't believe the minimum wagers belong anywhere here.

I enjoy all the fora herewith, and don't think a discrimination of any sort belongs.

People, we are ALL people, and need to treat each other BETTER, like the Hippocratic oath for doctors says " first, do no harm "...practice it daily in all human dealings and perhaps this would be a better world!!

Well given all the comments I see on here along the lines of "I am 45 and planning to retire by 48" or some other young age, at 54, you are positively ancient!
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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My surprise comes from the Retirement board being more of a problem than Politics and other Controversies board to moderators. I would have never guessed that.
There are posters here who migrated from there. Some were recruited a few years ago to lend support to posters here. Was fascinating when that happened.
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