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Old 09-28-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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I LOVE to travel,but alas, haven't done so in 10 years. Reasons; no good neighbors to care for home/dogs/2 acres in my absence. A L3,4,5 spinal fusion which has lingering nerve/muscle damage which prevents me from riding horses as I once did. Next - I no longer work and make tons of money as I once did as a stripper.

So.... I am so glad I traveled extensively, doing a few horse treks in Iceland, Romania, Ireland and Greece. I've mostly traveled alone, carrying my own luggage, camping/driving in Crete, got stuck in Commie Czechoslovakia during the USA air traffic controller strike, with an expired visa (bribes go a long way!), etc, etc. I've had marvelous, and sometimes frightening adventures and wouldn't trade it for the world.

I probably could go on one of those boring grey-hair tours but I'd die of boredom, leave the group, get lost, etc. And I'd feel guilty leaving my dogs in a kennel. Oh well.
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I'm 69 and despise air travel to such a degree these days that it is an impediment to me taking some overseas pleasure trips. Last one was to Peru a few years ago. I love train travel and will gladly spend a couple days on a train visiting with fellow travelers...a community on wheels. I also enjoy road trips. Way back in the 1980s we bought a timeshare because we were not taking vacations and felt that the timeshare would make it easier and more or less force us out the door. I don't think we ever actually stayed at the place we purchased...it was only an hour away and always traded it off to go somewhere else. I still have it and generally use it for fishing trips up into the mountains -- twice this year. It is a little pricey these days for a single person but I can take guests if I want. It still gets me out the door. I have some minor mobility issues -- can't hike the back country like I used to -- but I do what I can and that is usually enough.
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Old 09-28-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee Area of WI
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I think it's personal taste. My sister and her husband do not like to travel. you should see their back yard. they spend 100K turning it into a oasis because they are home bodies.


By the way, people are always telling others what they do is wrong. Folks criticized my sister when she started redecorating her backyard.


she gets it from my dad, he was a homebody. I really don't know many folks who love to travel and then didn't like it as they got older, most of my friends still loved it but health issues prevent them from going as much as they like.


One thing I noticed here is that there are a lot of folks who are scared for their future. so I think a lot of folks are too scared to spend the money to enjoy themselves personally.
Someday I want that kind of backyard too! Good for them I say
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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International travel in coach is an awful experience. I'm in my mid 40s and have been all over the world many times. Been there done that. So if I make it into my 60s+ I will only travel in business class and right now that costs usually upwards of $6000 transatlantic or transpacific round trip. Probably will cost $10000+ when I'm retired so $20000 for two and that will be prohibitively expensive.
And at that age I won't squeeze into a 17" narrow coach seat with 30" pitch, little recline and strangers next to me for 10+ hours so I likely won't travel internationally at all anymore.
When it's on your own dime, you may change your tune.

I can deal with a Boston/London-Heathrow economy seat for the day flight as long as I buy an aisle seat. 5 1/2 hours. Take off at 8am. I'm in passport control at Heathrow at 7pm. It's no worse than flying to LAX. That's how I go to Europe. I spend the night at an airport hotel or in the city and continue on my way the next day after having slept in a real bed. With the 8am flight, I'm up early to catch the flight so I'm already most of the way adjusted to the timezone change. The flight home is longer because of the headwind and I often return from some other European city farther from Boston but it's during waking hours so I can get up and walk around.

JAL runs Dreamliners from Boston to Tokyo. They have 35 reclining premium economy seats with 42" seat pitch, 19.2" seat width, and power to the seat. It's not a business class sleeper seat but I'll survive it.

There are also ways to game business class fares. I occasionally buy Toronto/Asia business class tickets. They're far cheaper than originating from the US. I fly coach to Toronto on a separate ticket.
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Old 09-28-2017, 06:27 PM
 
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Many in their 90's still herd their RV's south for the winter.

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sure How about several, or a few.
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:50 PM
 
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International travel in coach is an awful experience. I'm in my mid 40s and have been all over the world many times. Been there done that. So if I make it into my 60s+ I will only travel in business class and right now that costs usually upwards of $6000 transatlantic or transpacific round trip. Probably will cost $10000+ when I'm retired so $20000 for two and that will be prohibitively expensive.
And at that age I won't squeeze into a 17" narrow coach seat with 30" pitch, little recline and strangers next to me for 10+ hours so I likely won't travel internationally at all anymore.
Funny. Iím 63 and have been traveling internationally for leisure for about 15 years. I donít find the seats all that uncomfortable and I travel sometimes 12 hrs w a two hour stop then another four, then a two hour cab ride to my destination.

Hate to say it but I think the main reason a lot of people are uncomfortable doing it is because they are overweight, out of shape, and had difficulty handling it. I canít begin to count the number of people Iíve said beside on international flights that are about 100 pounds overweight. Lose some damn weight people!
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Funny. Iím 63 and have been traveling internationally for leisure for about 15 years. I donít find the seats all that uncomfortable and I travel sometimes 12 hrs w a two hour stop then another four, then a two hour cab ride to my destination.

Hate to say it but I think the main reason a lot of people are uncomfortable doing it is because they are overweight, out of shape, and had difficulty handling it. I canít begin to count the number of people Iíve said beside on international flights that are about 100 pounds overweight. Lose some damn weight people!

Your points are valid but you're forgetting something - namely that how tall you are also matters in terms of whether airline coach seats are comfortable. I am 6'1" (not overweight) and even at that height there is just not enough room for my knees.


A couple of months ago I flew from Los Angeles to New Orleans and then back to Los Angeles eight days later. I got non-stop and it's about a four-hour flight. I decided to pay for Delta Comfort, which gives you extra legroom but the same width seat. It was $60 extra each way and well worth it to me personally. That is much cheaper than first class. (Sure, first class gives you the extra width also). On Delta that option also gave me priority boarding - after the wheelchairs, travelers with small chldren, and first class, of course. I'm glad I did that experiment and in the future I will be using that option (or similar) if the given airline offers it.


Being somewhat taller than average has its disadvantages.
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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Your points are valid but you're forgetting something - namely that how tall you are also matters in terms of whether airline coach seats are comfortable. I am 6'1" (not overweight) and even at that height there is just not enough room for my knees.


A couple of months ago I flew from Los Angeles to New Orleans and then back to Los Angeles eight days later. I got non-stop and it's about a four-hour flight. I decided to pay for Delta Comfort, which gives you extra legroom but the same width seat. It was $60 extra each way and well worth it to me personally. That is much cheaper than first class. (Sure, first class gives you the extra width also). On Delta that option also gave me priority boarding - after the wheelchairs, travelers with small chldren, and first class, of course. I'm glad I did that experiment and in the future I will be using that option (or similar) if the given airline offers it.


Being somewhat taller than average has its disadvantages.
Sure, I understand. I guess I was more countierng the poster's contention that it would cost 10 to20k to fly to Europe. I am flying to Bangkok in Nov. for $750 RT from SFO. A buddy of mine is 6 ft 2 and over 220 and flies a class in between business and economy (I fly economy and at 5 ft 10 have oodles of room) and says he has a ton of room and lt costs him about $1000 RT.
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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I'm 5'9.5" and have never ever had "oodles of room" for my legs in economy. Just the opposite.
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I'm still active, in my early 70s, travel all over the US for part-time work that I do but people are always telling me to travel before I get too old to do it or enjoy the experience. I also find among my peers that even before their physical strength fails and prevents them traveling, they seem to lose interest in straying too far from home or just are apathetic about the whole travel experience, seeing new things etc. Are others finding the same thing as well? What do you think some of the reasons for this may be?
It's an individual thing. Now that I'm older, I have less patience for the things that go wrong when traveling. Also, airline seats are smaller and more claustrophobic and the service is horrendous.

I don't want to have to worry about bedbugs or noise or a hard mattress, etc. So, even at age 61, it's not so much that I don't want adventure - as I don't want to deal with being inconvenienced or deal with terrible customer service, or being stuck somewhere I don't want to be.

So, I haven't traveled by air for many years now. I would now be more inclined to RV travel, where I can take my home with me wherever I go. If I get waylaid for whatever reason, my bed is right behind my driver's seat. And I can take my dog.

It's really a matter of convenience and feeling valued as a consumer.

Plus, there are just too many risks, depending on where you want to travel, being an American outside of America to want to deal with right now.
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