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Old 10-08-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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^^^^ Where's Bada-Bing when we need him ?!?!?
Just letting the flow of the thread go and spot reading.

 
Old 10-08-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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Yes if you aren't earning enough to live on for God's sake. Many of the people not paying federal income tax are getting EITC, would it make you feel better to have them pay income tax and then increase the EITC by the same amount that they paid out in taxes?

If you want to talk about a fair share, let's look at some of the profitable companies that pay zero income tax? There are 27 S&P 500 companies that did just that But some guy working at a warehouse making 30k supporting a wife and two kids should pay their fare share
Sure a minimum citizenship fee of say a minimum of $100 annually. Same for welfare recipients a minimum benefit deduction again a citizenship fee. A possible option to paying would be your first born for military service of six years.

As far as corporations go even if not directly paying taxes the salaries they pay result in federal income tax along with payroll taxes.

That would create a very interesting discussion by some advocates of a particular mindset about how much they want to push for more federal spending.

Just a thought per your request!
 
Old 10-08-2017, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Sure a minimum citizenship fee of say a minimum of $100 annually. Same for welfare recipients a minimum benefit deduction again a citizenship fee. A possible option to paying would be your first born for military service of six years.

As far as corporations go even if not directly paying taxes the salaries they pay result in federal income tax along with payroll taxes.
Oh My......maybe you should try spot-posting.

A Hundred Dollars ?? Oh, I get it....like an HOA Fee ??

And now the Employee is supposed to pay the Corporations Tax Bill ??
 
Old 10-08-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Sure a minimum citizenship fee of say a minimum of $100 annually. Same for welfare recipients a minimum benefit deduction again a citizenship fee. A possible option to paying would be your first born for military service of six years.

As far as corporations go even if not directly paying taxes the salaries they pay result in federal income tax along with payroll taxes.

That would create a very interesting discussion by some advocates of a particular mindset about how much they want to push for more federal spending.

Just a thought per your request!
Wow.. the "job creators" should be excused from paying income tax because they employ the peons who contribute to the economy through payroll taxes. But the "takers", well they can cough up a $100 annual citizenship tax. And I guess that would include seniors in rest homes whose entire SS check goes toward their care, the unemployed, the homeless and students. And if they don't pay it, what then, do they surrender their citizenship?
 
Old 10-08-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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Oh My......maybe you should try spot-posting.

A Hundred Dollars ?? Oh, I get it....like an HOA Fee ??

And now the Employee is supposed to pay the Corporations Tax Bill ??
No they corporation is providing the salary that gets taxed. It comes from what could have been a lower salary and higher profits or return to share holders,
 
Old 10-08-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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Wow.. the "job creators" should be excused from paying income tax because they employ the peons who contribute to the economy through payroll taxes. But the "takers", well they can cough up a $100 annual citizenship tax. And I guess that would include seniors in rest homes whose entire SS check goes toward their care, the unemployed, the homeless and students. And if they don't pay it, what then, do they surrender their citizenship?
Nah by that age they get a pass. Either having paid for most of their life or having in middle years coughed a kid up for the military.
 
Old 10-08-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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Look at it this way on federal taxes from the poor dependent on government services for their survival. Granted you can't get blood from a rock but why not a chip off the old rock in lieu of federal tax payments?

Sorta like a takers draft.
 
Old 10-08-2017, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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You know, I'm coming around to Tuborg's way of seeing this.....an HOA Fee on the Homeless. I think you may be on to something here.

We'd have to present it to the poor is such a way as to make it look like they're raelly getting some benefit for their $100.

We could call it a Greens Fee -- for when their sleeping in the Park !!

Now tuborg......can you please expound on your Proposal to make the Employees pay for the Corporation's Tax Burden.
 
Old 10-08-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: WA
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When corporations pay tax it comes from customers, employees, and shareholders. A case can be made that it is not a transparent (or productive) way to raise revenue.
 
Old 10-08-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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You know, I'm coming around to Tuborg's way of seeing this.....an HOA Fee on the Homeless. I think you may be on to something here.

We'd have to present it to the poor is such a way as to make it look like they're raelly getting some benefit for their $100.

We could call it a Greens Fee -- for when their sleeping in the Park !!

Now tuborg......can you please expound on your Proposal to make the Employees pay for the Corporation's Tax Burden.
A Bada Bing for your first part. Now on getting folks to pay the corporations tax burden you give them a salary and that forces them in many cases to pay taxes on the money you give them.

You hire good accountants that help you use the cost of employees to help reduce your tax burden.

Then you lobby congress with some of your profits via your industry lobby etc to reduce the corporate tax rate.

You then lobby for a reduction in capital gains taxes so your share holders save money and support the tax plan.

Then you cut government services and revenue expenditures so you can offset the reduction in corporate taxes. That way Joe Average who pays federal income tax on working earnings with little if any investment income has in practice helped pay your corporate taxes.
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